[PD] FFT + dac~ delay issue

Kyle Klipowicz kyleklip at gmail.com
Sat Sep 16 08:48:27 CEST 2006


Aaaaarg.  This is starting to sound like the microsound list.

Model vs. View.  Model vs. View...

~Kyle

On 9/15/06, Mathieu Bouchard <matju at artengine.ca> wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Sep 2006, Chuckk Hubbard wrote:
> > On 9/15/06, Mathieu Bouchard <matju at artengine.ca> wrote:
> >> Something like the concept of the thing-in-itself can appear in
> >> mathematics and computer programming, but that's because those things
> >> focus on invention rather than discovery. (ok, discovery can happen there,
> >> but it always relies on things that have been purely invented before.)
> > I think mathematics and programming appear that way because they deal
> > with things that are imaginary.
>
> "Imaginary" matches my use of the word "invention".
>
> > In reality, five oranges, for instance, are not equal to another five
> > oranges.
>
> No, it depends on the meaning of the word "equal" - but that's a human
> concept: the oranges don't care about being equal or not. Likewise there
> is a hierarchy of equal signs in math, for when you want to deal with
> different levels of likeness. For example, modulo arithmetic introduces a
> different equality which is more slack than conventional equality.
>
> > The thing that can be measured and equated is the event, which doesn't
> > exist.
>
> Whether or not something "really exists" is a meaningless question. "real
> existence" does not exist. It's just a matter of pushing one's own
> definition of the word. I could try to come up with a more useful
> definition (words should be given useful definitions) and I can't think
> why it's of any importance to think of events as non-existing.
>
> And then I'm not sure about your meaning of the word "event" either...
>
> And I thought that events are things that are localized in time... silly
> me ;-)
>
> > Programs and equations don't exist, though, they occur.
>
> If you're going to say things like that, I'm going to argue that you're
> just a bunch of molecules. Your distinction between existence and
> occurrence is useless.
>
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> | Freelance Digital Arts Engineer, Montréal QC Canada
>


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