[PD] datastruct newbie mistake

[Frank Barknecht]

Hallo,
Chris McCormick hat gesagt: // Chris McCormick wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 18, 2006 at 02:32:49AM -0400, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
>
> > By having attended PdConvention04 and Piksel05, by reading pd-list and 
> > pd-dev for four years, by founding the #dataflow channel and sitting in it 
> > for five years, and then, by organising twenty-two usergroup meetings that 
> > consist of 2-6 talks each.
> 
> That is a lot of experience and has obviously given you a good insight
> into certain kinds of Pd users, but it's all what I'd call anecdotal
> evidence. It would be nice to get actual survey data from users of this
> list as to what libraries, features, distributions of Pd people work
> with and hack on. Hmmm, maybe we (collectively) should knock together
> a nice survey?

Based on my reading pd-list for about 5-6 years, the number of user of
data structures started to grow after the pd-convention, also through
the tutorial I wrote for the workshop I did back then. Before that I
only knew two people using data structures: Miller and Orm Finnendahl.
The questions I posted re. data structures prior to the workshop were
only answered by Miller. 

The growing user base IMO was one of the reasons, that data structures
got all the new features they got after the pd-convention. Without
feedback it surely was hard for Miller to figure out ways to make his
ideas - which are in Pd since 1996 - practical and useful. 

But now, with "power users" like you or Chuck and others giving
feedback and making wishes, there's a completely new drive in the
ds-development. Of course data structures still have "issues" and they
are a bit tricky to understand at first, but that didn't stop me from
teaching them (I believe successfully) in beginner's workshops. 

Ciao
-- 
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