[PD] and it's PR/Marketing, or those

Miller Puckette mpuckett at imusic1.ucsd.edu
Sun Oct 15 01:29:35 CEST 2006

Well, I managed to crash 0.40-0 once on XP, although I can't replicate
the problem... my plan is to make a patch that automatically opens and 
closes patches adn other files repeatedly to see if that can engender
crashes.  It's been pretty tough to debug things like that on XP (the last
such problem went away when I used the debugger).   However, 0.39 ended
up getting updated twice before it was exactly right (0.39-2) and perhaps
the same will end up happening with 0.40...


On Sat, Oct 14, 2006 at 12:58:22PM -0500, David Powers wrote:
> First, let me say that I have got some things running really stable -
> ie. generative MIDI output, and Gem, once I upgraded to the
> experimental version, and modified some things in my patches, to get
> around limitations of that version.
> However, my biggest problem with PD is still that things crash all the
> time, but nobody ever can say why, and I'm not sure if things are
> improving. Particularly, when working with digital audio, there seem
> to be some problems, as well as in the opening and closing, and
> modifying of files, generally. I'm not sure if this is a WinXP issue,
> or what - but I'm having such problems even with "core" PD, no
> externals added, just modifying Miller's example patches. The
> frustrating thing is, others don't seem to be able to replicate it,
> and sometimes even I can't replicate the error.
> But still - unstable is unstable, and for a live performance or
> installation, that's a BIG problem. What am I to do if PD crashes in
> the middle of a 45 minutes piece with live musicians???
> The end result is that I may be forced to use commercial software like
> Reaktor, when it would be nice to use something open source, and where
> I would be ready to share the results of my patches with the PD
> community.
> ~David
> On 10/14/06, Adrian <nordbaer at gmail.com> wrote:
> >I'm sorry for this more like OT, it's just my thought about improving
> >PD and it's externals in another way.
> >
> >I'm struggling ...
> >
> >PD is one of the best tools for making people
> >learn/experiment/perform/interact digital/electronic art at it's best.
> >But where are the people that are PD's target. I'm trying to suggest
> >that PD should try to follow a Popper-alike way of developing. Make it
> >easy accessable for the people and use their input. Except if PD and
> >it's externals are purely egoistic developments, which i don't think
> >is the case ;)
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