[PD] PD and MacIntel
Damian Stewart
damian at frey.co.nz
Thu Oct 19 04:24:54 CEST 2006
carmen wrote:
> it would help if you can provide a backtrace so that these crashes can
> be diagnosed..
Pd does say 'warning: MIDI in Windows is dangerous' on creating any MIDI
objects, I figure everyone knows this already. Also, I don't know how to
provide a backtrace. I would love to get my hands dirty with the PD
source but it resolutely refuses to compile on my machine. I've tried
four different Windows-based unix-like and non-unix-like compilation
environments, each taking upwards of ten hours to install and experiment
with, and have achieved not a single compile. That's forty hours of
potential music making, and all of my spare time for three weeks, gone,
on nothing, not to mention the stress and frustration as gig dates loom
and I still haven't actually made any music. And it turns out during
that that I probably ended up getting several broken CVS versions,
instead of 'the proper one', whichever that is.
> have you tried Ubuntu Studio, Musix, Studio-to-Go, Studio64, DeMuDi, CCRMA or
> Dynebolic/PureDyne?
The issue isn't with Linux per se, it's my USB audio device. The
built-in audio is gross on pretty much every PC laptop, and I just can't
make my USB audio device go. It's a Tascam US122, which I specifically
bought because people said good things about it working in Linux, but I
can't make it go. (I've browsed the code, the logs, and the web trying
to see if I can figure it out for myself, and I can't.)
Ubuntu (Hoary and Breezy) freezes my machine on boot (it's a PCMCIA
issue but I can't work out how to disable it). I have a mostly working
DeMuDi install which does almost everything except support my USB Audio
/ MIDI device, although I had to roll my own kernel to get around the
PCMCIA issue (which seemed to be causing random kernel panics on boot).
I pay through the nose for internet which doesn't make downloading
install discs particularly fun, and to be frank given my low success
rate in the past I've lost the enthusiasm. I have been along to an
installfest or two but no luck there either, it seems that the kind of
people who know how to make Linux work on a laptop just know how to
browse the web and how trial and error works, which is what I know
already anyway.
So yes. I have tried many Liunx distros, multiple times. (I tried my
first distro in 1999, in fact, with Red Hat 6. Couldn't make it work
like I wanted then, either.) There is no silver bullet to this problem,
that I know.
> but if Tk is slow, and OSX is slow (they both are)
Most systems are slow, for given definitions of slow. Definitions of
slow also have a habit of morphing over the years, so that the
'blazingly fast' cpu of 1999 magically becomes 'slow as a dog' by 2005.
It should be called Moore's Treadmill, and it should've been smashed to
small pieces ten years ago. I'm getting off.
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Damian Stewart
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