[PD] Re: metro vs. samm~

[Mike McGonagle]

With all this talk, it would be interesting to actually get a copy of
these externals to try them out. Are these posted somewhere? Thanks,

Mike


On 2/18/07, Eric Lyon <audiodidact at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > If you're worried by metro's irregularity then you should use Eric
> > > Lyons' samm~ (sample accurate multiple metronomes). This is
> > > described in
> > > http://www.sarc.qub.ac.uk/~elyon/LyonPapers/SampleAccurate-Lyon-ICMC2006.pdf
> >
> > Note that samm~ is almost exactly as sample-accurate as Pd's metro. I
> > tried to illustrate this in attached patch. samm~ however is also
> > available for Max, where the metro according to Eric's paper is not as
> > accurate as the one in Pd, so if you need to move patches between both
> > systems, samm~ is a good choice. Of course Eric's system has some
> > convenient extensions to generate polyrhythms etc., but timing alone
> > IMO is no reason to exchange [metro] with [samm~] on Pd.
> >
>
> Cool patch, Frank. Note though that by converting the click signal
> from samm~ into a bang, you are rounding it to the nearest vector. As
> I showed in my demo at LAC, I can make metro perform poorly in a
> subpatch with a very large blocksize (say 4096), but samm~ will
> perform the same irrespective of blocksize.
>
> It is true that samm~ and friends were originally written for MaxMSP
> to deal with its problematic event-level timing. OTOH as my paper
> points out, Pd's audio thread is more susceptible to interruption from
> GUI events than MaxMSP. In addition to convenience, The benefits of
> samm~ come from its integration into a system of signal-level
> triggering, particularly with the soundfile player called player~
> which I think has some nice features.
>
> Best,
>
> Eric
>
> > Ciao
> > --
> >  Frank Barknecht                 _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__
> >
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: Frank Barknecht <fbar at footils.org>
> > To: pd-list at iem.at
> > Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 14:01:08 +0100
> > Subject: Re: [PD] Dynamic patching questions
> > Hallo,
> > Alexandre Quessy hat gesagt: // Alexandre Quessy wrote:
> > > 3) Is the use of [namecanvas $0] recommended or totally deprecated ?
> >
> > if you want to edit the content of subpatches I'd say it's totally
> > deprecated because it's completely unnecessary, as every subpatch has
> > its own receiver "pd-subpatchname" builtin. This also works for
> > subpatch names containing $0 as: "pd-$0-subpatchname"
> >
> > > 4) Where can I find an abstraction or object to convert any familiar
> > > representation of colors to the Tk colors (or whatever is used for GUI
> > > objects) ?
> >
> > E.g. here:
> > http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2006-03/036005.html
> >
> > Ciao
> > --
> >  Frank Barknecht                 _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: Yves Degoyon <ydegoyon at free.fr>
> > To: Alexandre Quessy <listes at sourcelibre.com>
> > Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 16:16:17 +0100
> > Subject: Re: [PD] Google Summer of Code
> >
> > >
> > > http://r23.cc/interface/ is a very nice example of audio streaming
> > > with server-side Pd.
> >
> > hum, there is an update on this, the new map component is there :
> > http://gollum.artefacte.org/mapuse/map.html
> >
> > the map itself is not pd, but some emitters ( radios ) use pd patches
> > to link this to a netjuke database that enables
> > to make playlist and programation.
> >
> > so, r23 itself uses pd, but the global infrastructure ( http://giss.tv )
> > allows to use any software to stream ( Muse, IceS, libshout, ... )
> >
> > cheers,
> > sevy
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: Jamie Bullock <jamie at postlude.co.uk>
> > To: marius schebella <marius.schebella at gmail.com>
> > Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 15:21:30 +0000
> > Subject: Re: [PD] Re: infinite composing
> > On Sat, 2007-02-17 at 19:19 -0500, marius schebella wrote:
> > > the call is written in a way that makes me think, that the producers
> > > don't know to much about what is going on in the world...
> > > but maybe the reason is, that there is no such thing as a kiosk mode or
> > > a protection from changing the patch in pd.
> >
> > There was a patch submitted by IOhannes to do this:
> >
> > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478072&aid=1529010&group_id=55736
> >
> > Jamie
> >
> >
> >
> >
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