[PD] newbie growing pains...

Kyle Klipowicz kyleklip at gmail.com
Wed Feb 21 21:17:33 CET 2007

That's very sound advice, Darek! I followed(/am following) a very
similar trajectory.

What I'd add to that:

Above all, don't think that you need to only use Pd for everything.
It's a great tool, but can bog you down from truly creating things if
you are stuck reinventing the wheel every time you get the time and
urge to make music/art.

It's perfectly acceptible to use Pd for its strengths, but then
another application when Pd is less-than-adequate (or requiring dozens
of hours to make it adequate).

I recall a quote from Miller that paraphrased said something to the
effect that Pd is like the bash shell in UNIX. You wouldn't write a
word processor in a bash script, but it's great for rapidly
prototyping a quick and useful solution.


On 2/20/07, Derek Holzer <derek at umatic.nl> wrote:
> Hi Jared,
> for what it's worth, I've been working with PD for years and I still
> can't read most other people's patches ;-)
> Everybody has their own style, their own "handwriting", and some are
> more readable than others. Diving right into somebody's finished patch
> is pretty difficult for an experienced user, and almost impossible for a
> beginner, I'd say! If you were trying to learn German, would you start
> by reading Goethe?
> I learned PD by reproducing things which I understood already in stages,
> such as going from a quad-panner, a mixer, a sampler and a
> delay-network, to complex feedback-FM, a granular synthesizer and an
> algorithmic sequencer...etc etc. First I played around with the built-in
> examples, then I made simple things and basic utilities. After that I
> went back to the examples I skipped and figured out what I did wrong,
> and then I moved on to "porting" things from other apps I had used
> before and knew the structure of (AudioMulch units, Reaktor instruments,
> various VSTs, etc). These kinds of exercises are the ones I think work
> best. Start from a point you know, and figure out how to do it with the
> most basic objects in PD. If core PD doesn't do it, then it's time to
> reach for an external.
> best,
> d.
> jared wrote:
> > obvious similarities, but the more time I spend with PD the more they
> > feel like different beasts.   I will definitely go back and start from
> > square one with PD.
> --
> derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl
> ---Oblique Strategy # 77:
> "Give way to your worst impulse"
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