[PD] oldschool rave synths

Thu Mar 15 23:36:57 CET 2007

thanks man, i'll check this out - 

but, for the record, i'm not put off by the maths so much (they are 
needed to implement, after all :), but i am most interested in 
practical implementations w/ and explorations of the implications of 
the techniques - that's my main interest and, like pd itself, augments 
my learning style. :)

cheers & thx,
star

On Thu, 2007-03-15 at 18:04 -0700, Thomas Jeppesen wrote:
> Not sure if it's exactly what you are after, but "the computer musical 
> tutorial" by Curtis Roads, takes you through it all in a not too 
> scientific/mathematic way. Actually I think it accompanies PD extremely 
> well.
> 
> http://www.amazon.com/Computer-Music-Tutorial-Curtis-Roads/dp/0262680823/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/102-5380871-4068156?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1173978334&sr=8-1
> 
> I hope you'll find it useful.
> 
> Cheers!
> Thomas
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "shift8" <shift8 at digitrash.com>
> To: "padawan12" <padawan12 at obiwannabe.co.uk>
> Cc: <pd-list at iem.at>; "Josh Steiner" <josh at vitriolix.com>; 
> <hard.off at gmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 6:54 AM
> Subject: Re: [PD] oldschool rave synths
> 
> 
> > dude - you are a ninja.  uhm, i mean, a jedi. seriously - i want to
> > emulate you a bit when i grow up ;P
> >
> > that said, what resources would you recommend that illustrate calculus
> > as used for signal processing, but from a more functional point of view
> > as opposed to a theoretical one.  i know there are dsp chip programming
> > guides for engineering, but there seems to be only "how" and not the
> > "why" in most cases there.  too theoretical of descriptions makes it
> > difficult for me to visualize the action or imagine the sonic
> > implications of the theory being discussed.
> >
> > personally, i find that the application of theories make much more sense
> > than the abstract theories themselves.  maybe it's brain damage, or
> > perhaps plain 'ol ignorance.
> >
> > but anyway, here's a simple example:
> >
> > someone tells me an empirical definition of the nyquist theory, it's
> > hard to get my head around.  but if someone says "hey, you can't sample
> > a frequency that is >= 1/2 of the sample rate, because the wavelength is
> > too short in duration to fit sample boundaries, and it causes
> > distortions that are related to the frequency being sampled." that
> > totally makes sense.  i can picture that from a functional point of
> > view, and then have a much easier time with the math an theory of it.
> >
> > are there any resources, books, etc out that approach the subject of dsp
> > in a style like this?
> >
> > thanks and high regards,
> > star
> >
> > On Thu, 2007-03-15 at 15:24 +0000, padawan12 wrote:
> >> [pow~] is from cyclone, I think in the case I used it (pow 2) you can 
> >> replace it with
> >> an equivilent [expr~] expression or [*~]. I thought [lowpass] and 
> >> [highpass] were vanilla.
> >> They are needed to set the coeffs for biquad~
> >>
> >> On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:49:29 -0800
> >> Josh Steiner <josh at vitriolix.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > i seem to be missing:
> >> >
> >> > lowpass, highpass and pow~
> >> >
> >> > running 0.39.2-extended-test7 on winxp
> >> >
> >> > -josh
> >> >
> >> > padawan12 wrote:
> >> > > Sorry Hardoff, scratch that last load of rubbish. The parasite synth 
> >> > > is the
> >> > > wrong patch, and I thought I was talking about different oscillators, 
> >> > > it
> >> > > should have been something more like the ones here. The oscillator is
> >> > > a dual-slope one in hoover-triangles.pd, much easier to pull out than 
> >> > > the last mess.
> >> > >
> >> > > Another take is the hoover-pwm.pd, which is a juno voice basically, 
> >> > > it's much brighter and
> >> > > fizzy down low. It just depends what you want more in the low 
> >> > > registers, up high theres
> >> > > not so much difference.
> >> > > One is pulse width mod of a square, the other is slope mod of a 
> >> > > triangle, both have a bit
> >> > > of frequency lfo on too at about 5 Hz. A fat Juno hoover noise uses 
> >> > > the fast chorus
> >> > > so there's one on both versions. Each has the same sequence so you 
> >> > > can compare the sounds.
> >> > > All the hoover flavours have a different character, like a highpass 
> >> > > resonant filter
> >> > > makes an interesting addition. But what they share in common is a 
> >> > > busy sound made
> >> > > by having 3 or 4 detuned components. Juno is a pwm + saw + square 
> >> > > mix, with the
> >> > > square an octave down.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 22:34:01 +0900
> >> > > "hard off" <hard.off at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >> andy's tokyo techno one is cool.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> but i want hoovers.  i keep try to make them and they always suck.
> >> > >> there must have been a secret ingredient that i am forgetting.
> >> > >>
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