[PD] PD i education

Anders Friberg andersf at speech.kth.se
Wed May 30 13:51:47 CEST 2007


This is a quite extreme viewpoint. Translate that to language learning, 
for example a German learning English. It implies that using a 
dictionary from German to English is forbidden and the only available 
dictionary is from English to German. Then assume that the German guy 
have some basic understanding of the English language but forgot one 
word... This is exactly my own case. Maybe I am away from pd for a year 
(God forbid!). Then most of my fluency will fade away and a dictionary 
would be extremely helpful. I tend to remember functionality but not the 
exact block name. Am I alone?
We also try to avoid any fancy stuff in the basic tutorials but we use 
pd-extended ourselfs and we provide ready-made patches using pd-extended 
that the students can interface to.
/Anders

Frank Barknecht wrote:
> Hallo,
> Anders Friberg hat gesagt: // Anders Friberg wrote:
>
>   
>> However, the most common problem is the following:
>> I want to do this <operation> - is there block that can do it and what's 
>> the name of it?
>> In the majority of cases in the beginning there is actually already a 
>> block that can do it but there is no way to find out except browse the 
>> whole documentation including all packages and guess. It used to pop up 
>> a text file with blocks ordered according to purpose in vanilla pd which 
>> I think was of great help. I suppose this is considered to lowtech and 
>> inflexible considering all the packages etc.
>>     
>
> I consider "learning the blocks" part of a more general issue with
> learning Pd. Like many other languages, natural ones like English or
> programming languages like C, a user of that language needs to develop
> a higher level of literacy. 
>
> When children learn how to read, at first they decipher words letter
> by letter: "c-a-t", "d-o-g", "e-l-e-p-h-a-n-t" etc. 
>
> Adult people don't do this anymore, instead they immediatly recognize
> complete words or even phrases and sentences, youknowhaddamean?
>
> In Pd developing this kind of an eye for phrases, blocks, idioms or
> whatever you call them is just as important. Having a dictionary at
> hand is of not much help here, you only gain that ability through
> constant use, through reading and writing patches yourself.
>
> That's why I started to do special excercises in my workshops to
> improve the student's literacy in Pd. A simple one is attached:
> hellokitty.pd contains some Pd phrases, some "kittens" as I call them,
> that have lost their home. Students are asked to decipher them and
> think about, what might be the correct "home" for these "kittens", the
> place they belong to in a Pd patch. Giving the kittens a name may help
> with remembering their structure.
>
> Ciao
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