[PD] PD i education

Hans-Christoph Steiner hans at eds.org
Wed May 30 14:54:17 CEST 2007

Yeah, a search mechanism for all the help patches would be very  
helpful.  There was a pretty good spec for such a system that came  
out of the PDDP meetings, but alas, it has not been implemented.  It  
seems that it would take someone getting funded to focus on it in  
order to make it happen.  It's a big task, and unfortunately, none of  
us found enough time to get it going.


On May 30, 2007, at 2:56 AM, Anders Friberg wrote:

> We are using pd as the main tool in our course about musical  
> communication ranging from basic synthesizer construction to  
> sensors/video/sound interactions.
> http://www.speech.kth.se/courses/1213/
> We chose it since it is free and available on all platforms making  
> it easy for the students to use it. pd is a little bit hard to  
> start with due to the lacking coherence and documentation but the  
> pd-extended version has helped a lot (Thanks Hans!). We do  
> everything "pd-extended compliant" now. Also a number of master  
> thesis students as well as researchers are using pd in projects  
> right now.
> I think the basic tutorials, such as the tutorial patches included  
> in pd and Miller's tutorials, are pretty good to get started and  
> understand the concepts. However, the most common problem is the  
> following:
> I want to do this <operation> - is there block that can do it and  
> what's the name of it?
> In the majority of cases in the beginning there is actually already  
> a block that can do it but there is no way to find out except  
> browse the whole documentation including all packages and guess. It  
> used to pop up a text file with blocks ordered according to purpose  
> in vanilla pd which I think was of great help. I suppose this is  
> considered to lowtech and inflexible considering all the packages etc.
> Anyway, some way of going from <function> to block would improve  
> the usability of pd enormously. I think this is something we could  
> engage in given that there are some simple tasks to do. For  
> example, could the different blocks be give a category (e.g.  
> "audio"), subcategory (e.g. "filter"), library (e.g. "zexy"), a one- 
> liner description (e.g. "one-pole filter") and then include that in  
> the browser so that you can sort and display according to categories?
> /Anders
> Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>> We've been using Pd to teach sound and soon sensors/interaction here:
>> http://idmi.poly.edu
>> I try to make all my materials freely available.  It seems that we
>> should all work together and come up with some kick-ass teaching
>> materials.  Plus I think it would save us all a lot of work in the
>> long run.
>> You might also be interested in Miller's new book which using Pd
>> directly to teach DSP:
>> http://www.worldscibooks.com/compsci/6277.html
>> .hc
>> On May 29, 2007, at 6:32 AM, Mikael Fernstrom wrote:
>>> I use PD with our MA/MSc students in Interactive Media and (some) in
>>> Music Technology here at the University of Limerick.
>>> http://www.csis.ul.ie/imedia/
>>> http://www.ccmcm.ie/
>>> http://www.idc.ul.ie/
>>> - Mikael Fernström
>>> On 29 May 2007, at 09:39, Eirik Arthur Blekesaune wrote:
>>>> Can anybody help me point out who uses PD to teach electronic
>>>> music? ..
>>>> (Algoritmic) Composistion
>>>> Synthesis
>>>> DSP-theory
>>>> real-time performance
>>>> What are the pros and cons for using it to teach DSP-theory?
>>>> Best,
>>>> Eirik Blekesaune
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