[PD] PD i education

Kyle Klipowicz kyleklip at gmail.com
Wed May 30 19:29:56 CEST 2007

I totally agree with fbar on this. Reading Dr. Seuss before Thomas
Pynchon is a must!

However, Pd-extended is a nice one to give people because it allows
much more exploration of the Pdiverse.

I guess I think that the best approach is to give them Pd-extended,
but only show the vanilla objects and documentation first. Then, after
they are proficient with the basics, blow their minds with Gem, hid,
Pduino, list-abs, rtc-lib, rradical, etc. That way they don't have to
get scared of compiling stuff too early on, and can have a nice
learning curve.


On 5/30/07, Frank Barknecht <fbar at footils.org> wrote:
> Hallo,
> Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
> > Ideally, having the whole package doesn't get in the way of newbies
> > starting out with the basics.  If it does, that should be fixed.
> > Once it is installed, then newbies can start to explore thru all the
> > examples after the workshop and see where it leads them.  That's a
> > key part of my philosophy here: enabling the spirit of play and
> > exploration.
> I think, basically we aren't that far away from each other: The large
> number of examples in pd-extended of course is like a collection of
> texts for the students to study and learn from.
> And of course in my workshops, I do use pd-extended, let alone because
> it's the only available collection of externals. (I still would like
> to have it a bit more customizable instead of being so monolithic, and
> I believe the help-files are too "chatty", but that's another story.)
> But my main point is this: You can learn what [route] means, you can
> learn how [list prepend] works. But you only learn how to "speak" Pd
> as soon as you understand what this means:
>  "something"   [0\
>  |             |
>  [list prepend 2]
>  |
>  [route 0 1 2 3]
>   |  |  |  |  |
> With pd-extended it's tempting to just use [demux 4] instead but then
> you wouldn't have gained a deeper understanding of the language, you
> would only know another word.
> Ciao
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