[PD] PD-list Digest, Vol 27, Issue 15

ruth mccracken ruth_mccracken01 at yahoo.com
Mon Jun 4 15:08:26 CEST 2007


Hi,
I have installed pd-extended 0.38.4 on ubuntu feisty. When I tried to open it, it asked for several libraries. So I made several symbolic links to libraries it has asked for, and they appear to be working OK.

But libvos3gcc3.so has got me stumped.

When I try to open pd I get the following error message:

/usr/local/lib/pd/bin/pd-gui: error while loading shared libraries: libvos3gcc3.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory




I have libvos3gcc3.so in /usr/lib/openoffice/program. 
I have tried:

a/  making a symbolic link from /usr/local/lib/pd/bin to /usr/lib/openoffice/program/libvos3gcc3.so 

b/ copying libvos3gcc3.so to /usr/local/lib/pd/bin

Neither worked! *@#%$%!!

 Does anyone have any advice on what I can do here?

Thankyou!

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Latest Pd-extended experiences (IOhannes m zmoelnig)
   2. function-to-block dictionary in pd-extended [was: Re: PD i
      education] (Anders Friberg)
   3. Re: Try my Digital Waveguide Synthesis patches! (Frank Barknecht)
   4. Re: Try my Digital Waveguide Synthesis patches! (Frank Barknecht)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 09:32:55 +0200
From: IOhannes m zmoelnig 
Subject: Re: [PD] Latest Pd-extended experiences
To: David Powers 
Cc: pd-list 

Message-ID: <4663C027.1060509 at iem.at>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15

hi.

i stripped the "zexy" from the subject-line.

David Powers wrote:
> Bad news:
> 
> BUT - there are some SERIOUS problems with Gem, and the entire patch
> is now broken!!! I'm trying to understand more of the problems, but
> what I see right now, is something wrong with pix_buffer, and
> pix_freeframe, and something with the fonts, in particular. There's an
> error with rotateXYZ but I don't think that's important. Any
> suggestions??? This is on WinXp, pd-extended RC 1.


let's have a look.

> 
> Here is the output when I first load my patch:
> 
> [tabdump] part of zexy-2.1 (compiled: Apr 14 2007)
>     Copyright (l) 1999-2006 IOhannes m zm?lnig, forum::f?r::uml?ute & IEM
> expr, expr~, fexpr~ version 0.4 under GNU General Public License
> MAN::resetState entered
> GEM: loaded image: C:/vid/gem-vj/crab.jpg
> [tabset] part of zexy-2.1 (compiled: Apr 14 2007)
>     Copyright (l) 1999-2006 IOhannes m zm?lnig, forum::f?r::uml?ute & IEM
> pix_film:: directshow support
> handle 0    AAF0D98
> filmQT created
> pix_film:: quicktime support
> handle 1    AAF0F48
> handle 2    12FCA98
> handle 3    12FCB38
> handle 4    12FCBD0
> handle 5    12FCC70
> handle 6    12FCD18
> pix_buffer_read: couldn't find pix_buffer '1115-buff'



[pix_buffer]:
there is a minor annoyance, where [pix_buffer_read] (and
[pix_buffer_write]) do a check for an existing [pix_buffer] at creation
time (which is a bad time to check, since the corresponding [pix_buffer]
might be yet non-existant).
usually you can safely ignore this warning.
(however, i was not able to detect any other problems from your error
logs, which does not mean that there are none).



> GEM: loaded images: C:/vid/gem-vj/img/aliens1/ .jpg from 0 to 18 skipping 1
> [urn] part of zexy-2.1 (compiled: Apr 14 2007)
>     Copyright (l) 1999-2006 IOhannes m zm?lnig, forum::f?r::uml?ute & IEM
> img-loadhack
> ... couldn't create
> handle 0    12FE8F0
> filmQT created
> handle 1    12FE9E8
> handle 2    12FEAA0
> handle 3    12FEB40
> handle 4    12FEBD8
> handle 5    12FEC78
> handle 6    12FED20
> pix_buffer_read: couldn't find pix_buffer '1121-buff'
> GEM: loaded images: C:/vid/gem-vj/img/mad/ .jpg from 0 to 13 skipping 1
> trying to load C:/vid/gem-vj/freeframe/PeteSlide
> C:\\vid\\gem-vj\\freeframe\\PeteSlide: couldn't load
> error: GemException: couldn't load FreeFrame-plugin
> pix_freeframe freeframe/PeteSlide
> ... couldn't create

just to make sure: you DO have a PeteSlide.dll in C:/vid/gem-vj/freeframe/?
and Gem has been able to load this dll in previous incarnations?

afaik, Gem for w32 is still just directly pulled from gem.iem.at
(instead of compiled on the autobuild farm); this might still be a
problem with compiler versions and the like...


> trying to load C:/vid/gem-vj/freeframe/PeteGaussianBlur
> C:\\vid\\gem-vj\\freeframe\\PeteGaussianBlur: couldn't load
> error: GemException: couldn't load FreeFrame-plugin
> pix_freeframe freeframe/PeteGaussianBlur
> ... couldn't create
> handle 0    12FC708
> filmQT created
> handle 1    12FC800
> handle 2    12FC8B8
> handle 3    12FC958
> handle 4    12FA350
> handle 5    12FA3F0
> handle 6    12FA498
> pix_buffer_read: couldn't find pix_buffer '1141-buff'
> GEM: loaded images: C:/vid/gem-vj/img/fly/ .jpg from 0 to 14 skipping 1
> GEM: loaded images: C:/vid/gem-vj/img/universe/ .jpg from 0 to 12
> skipping 1
> error: GEM: rotateXYZ: needs 0 or 3 arguments
> error: GEM: rotateXYZ: needs 0 or 3 arguments
> error: GEM: rotateXYZ: needs 0 or 3 arguments
> error: GEM: rotateXYZ: needs 0 or 3 arguments

this has always been like this: [rotateXYZ] either needs no or exactly 3
arguments; try to find out why your patch gives another number of
arguments to this object.



> [demultiplex] part of zexy-2.1 (compiled: Apr 14 2007)
>     Copyright (l) 1999-2006 IOhannes m zm?lnig, forum::f?r::uml?ute & IEM
> error: GEMtext: unable to open font C:/vid/gem-vj/over/vera.ttf

Gem's default font has changed from arial.ttf to vera.ttf for legal reasons.
just copy your old C:/vid/gem-vj/over/arial.ttf to
C:/vid/gem-vj/over/vera.ttf....



mfga.sdr
IOhannes



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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 09:52:48 +0200
From: Anders Friberg 
Subject: [PD] function-to-block dictionary in pd-extended [was: Re: PD
 i education]
To: marius schebella , Hans-Christoph
 Steiner , pd-list at iem.at
Cc: afriberg at csc.kth.se
Message-ID: <4663C4D0.3050100 at speech.kth.se>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Sounds great!
I started to think about how it could be done. One simple start would be 
to include the list of objects according to function that is found in 
core-pd.  However, I think it would be better to put in in the help menu 
rather than then right-clicking on the canvas. This would encourage 
newbies to use the standard pd blocks to start with.

A general function-to-block dictionary is more complicated since there 
seems to be something like 1000 help files in the doc section...
One possibility could be to put a text label in each help file, for example:
;;;pd-extended classification;;;category: audio;function: filter, 
subfunction: bandpass;;;
This is just an example. It could be done in a number of ways e.g. just 
give keywords. The audio/control classification is of course already 
evident from the tilde sign.This could be complemented with a short 
"one-liner":
;;;description: A 2-pole bandpass filter;;;

Then this would be divided in thee tasks:
1. agree on the list of categories and functions
2. label the help files ( I guess that it would be easy for everyone to 
do in the CVS?)
3. Implement sorting according to function in the browser. (If the 
browser search the doc section a new lib would be included automatically.)

The first step can be done on this list or in the pd doc group.
The second step can easily be distributed. I could spend some time with 
it and I think I could mobilize more people at the department as well.
The last step depends mostly on hans so it would be great to hear your 
opinion about it.
/Anders

marius schebella wrote:
> Three, I would like to help build such a database.
> marius.
>
> Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>>
>> I sometimes forget even the names of the objects that I have written, 
>> so I would use the dictionary for sure.  So you are not alone in the 
>> desire for a dictionary, there is at least two of us ;)
>>
>> .hc
>>
>> On May 30, 2007, at 7:51 AM, Anders Friberg wrote:
>>
>>> This is a quite extreme viewpoint. Translate that to language 
>>> learning, for example a German learning English. It implies that 
>>> using a dictionary from German to English is forbidden and the only 
>>> available dictionary is from English to German. Then assume that the 
>>> German guy have some basic understanding of the English language but 
>>> forgot one word... This is exactly my own case. Maybe I am away from 
>>> pd for a year (God forbid!). Then most of my fluency will fade away 
>>> and a dictionary would be extremely helpful. I tend to remember 
>>> functionality but not the exact block name. Am I alone?
>>> We also try to avoid any fancy stuff in the basic tutorials but we 
>>> use pd-extended ourselfs and we provide ready-made patches using 
>>> pd-extended that the students can interface to.
>>> /Anders

-- 
---------------------
Anders Friberg
Associate Professor
Speech, Music and Hearing, KTH
Lindstedtsv?gen 24
S-100 44 Stockholm
http://www.speech.kth.se/~andersfr/
work: +46 8 7907876
mobile: +46 70 7746287





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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 10:42:36 +0200
From: Frank Barknecht 
Subject: Re: [PD] Try my Digital Waveguide Synthesis patches!
To: pd-list at iem.at
Message-ID: <20070604084236.GV12992 at fliwatut.scifi>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Hallo,
Kim Taylor hat gesagt: // Kim Taylor wrote:

> I've found this board very useful while doing my university project, I
> thought I'd show you what I've done with Pd. Any feedback at all would
> be really useful at this stage in the project. It'd also be nice to
> get some comments from you Pd guru's on how I've put it together.

Just had a quick look, impressive work you did there. More comments
later, but there is one big technical problem for everyone not on
Windows as you: Your abstractions are named with mixed upper/lowercase
letters and in your patches you even use different spelling for the
same patch sometimes, like [dline-term] and [dline-Term] while the
actual object is called "dline-TERM.pd". Pd *is* case-sensitive so you
should decide what names to use. I would recommend to stick with all
lowercase names.

Ciao
-- 
 Frank Barknecht                 _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__



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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 10:58:29 +0200
From: Frank Barknecht 
Subject: Re: [PD] Try my Digital Waveguide Synthesis patches!
To: pd-list at iem.at
Message-ID: <20070604085828.GW12992 at fliwatut.scifi>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Hallo,
Kim Taylor hat gesagt: // Kim Taylor wrote:

> I've found this board very useful while doing my university project, I
> thought I'd show you what I've done with Pd. Any feedback at all would
> be really useful at this stage in the project. It'd also be nice to
> get some comments from you Pd guru's on how I've put it together.
> 
> See attachment, or failing that
> http://www-users.york.ac.uk/~kt503/3yp/KimsWaveguides.zip

Another thing: Something really strange is happening in excitation.pd:
Opening it, even with -noloadbang, completely freaks out my Pd and
makes it grind to a complete halt for like 20 seconds. The scollbar to
the right is showing a huge patch area, but there doesn't seem to be
anything outside the visible area.

Ciao
-- 
 Frank Barknecht                 _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__



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