[PD] $0 in messages (was: Re: difference send and using msg with "; ")

Kevin McCoy km.takewithyou at gmail.com
Thu Aug 16 20:39:17 CEST 2007

How does the 4 digit number get assigned to $0?  I have always been
curious about this.


On 8/16/07, Matteo Sisti Sette <matteo.sistisette at email.it> wrote:
> marius schebella wrote:
> > it is a pity that there is no $0 in messages. that would help so much!
> > I use local send/receive like s $0-blabla. with
> > messages you always have to mess with workaounds to achieve the same
> > result.
> > marius.
> Yeah, and the very same happens when you use [send/receive $1-blabla] and
> you need to change it into a message box.
> I personally think it is a pitty that message boxes use $'s with a different
> meaning than objects; it would be far more elegant (in my opinion obviously)
> if message-arguments used a different symbol, and if the $n in a message box
> referred to the n-th argument of the patch, not the message; that would
> include $0.
> That's how max works (if I'm not confused), where I think # refers to patch
> creation arguments and $ refers to message arguments (though probably max
> doesn't have a #0, does it?)
> That's the ONLY one thing I like more in max than in PD... up to now.
> The only way of introducing such a facility without breaking
> backward-compatibility (or is it forward?), would be to introduce a "third"
> symbol, say "@" (well it should be one that is currently not allowed in
> messages): @n if used inside a message, would refer to the "$n" of the patch
> (including @0), and outside a message box, i.e. in an object, it would be a
> synonim of $n.
> Is this nonsense?
> matteo
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