[PD] $0 in messages (was: Re: difference send and using msg with "; ")

marius schebella marius.schebella at gmail.com
Thu Aug 16 20:49:28 CEST 2007

the first appearance of $0 is substituted by 1000, the next with 1001 
and so on.

Kevin McCoy wrote:
> How does the 4 digit number get assigned to $0?  I have always been
> curious about this.
> Kevin
> On 8/16/07, Matteo Sisti Sette <matteo.sistisette at email.it> wrote:
>> marius schebella wrote:
>>> it is a pity that there is no $0 in messages. that would help so much!
>>> I use local send/receive like s $0-blabla. with
>>> messages you always have to mess with workaounds to achieve the same
>>> result.
>>> marius.
>> Yeah, and the very same happens when you use [send/receive $1-blabla] and
>> you need to change it into a message box.
>> I personally think it is a pitty that message boxes use $'s with a different
>> meaning than objects; it would be far more elegant (in my opinion obviously)
>> if message-arguments used a different symbol, and if the $n in a message box
>> referred to the n-th argument of the patch, not the message; that would
>> include $0.
>> That's how max works (if I'm not confused), where I think # refers to patch
>> creation arguments and $ refers to message arguments (though probably max
>> doesn't have a #0, does it?)
>> That's the ONLY one thing I like more in max than in PD... up to now.
>> The only way of introducing such a facility without breaking
>> backward-compatibility (or is it forward?), would be to introduce a "third"
>> symbol, say "@" (well it should be one that is currently not allowed in
>> messages): @n if used inside a message, would refer to the "$n" of the patch
>> (including @0), and outside a message box, i.e. in an object, it would be a
>> synonim of $n.
>> Is this nonsense?
>> matteo
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