[PD] $0 in messages (was: Re: difference send and using msg with "; ")

marius schebella marius.schebella at gmail.com
Fri Aug 17 02:52:03 CEST 2007

I don't know how easy/difficult an implementation of new variable names 
would be. I would give most priority to any kind of $0 feature in messages.
and then the next step for me would be to differentiate between 
$-variables (in messages) and # or ? or @ variables in patches. that way 
you would not break backwards compatibility, and a #0 or ?0 or @0 in a 
message or an object would behave like the old $0 var in objects. 
additionally the $1-$10 types could still be used in objects to be able 
to load old patches. but instead you could also use #1-#10 or ?1-?10 or 
@1- at 10.
that would make less confusion and you could also easily use #, ?, @ in 

the object attributes mentioned below appear in flext externals and are 
very useful. very!


Matteo Sisti Sette wrote:
> marius schebella wrote
>> why not use # as in max? @ is already used to access object attributes.
>> marius.
> # may be a good option, but:
> 1) It would not be as in max, it would be viceversa (max uses # for creation 
> arguments and $ for message arguments)
> 2) I guess it may imply some implementation difficulties, since in the patch 
> file $'s are actually saved as #'s
> (indeed there's even a bug that if you open a slider/toggle's properties and 
> it has a property with some $'s inside its name other than at the beginning, 
> they will show as #, although they work properly)
> I didn't know about object attributes in PD. I will search and learn about 
> them before I ask anything :)
> bye
> m. 
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