[PD] "object" or "class" in pdpedia

Thomas Grill gr at grrrr.org
Wed Sep 12 23:59:01 CEST 2007


Hey all,
my vote is for object, although it's technically incorrect.
Thinking of my course next semester, i guess i would have a hard time  
explaining the class/object difference to the students, most of who  
have no programming experience at all.
I tend to think that for pd this differentiation is not really an  
issue outside external programming (which isn't targetted in this  
discussion).

gr~~~

Am 12.09.2007 um 23:41 schrieb Roman Haefeli:

> On Wed, 2007-09-12 at 17:22 -0400, marius schebella wrote:
>> what you say make sense, it is just not true for Pd. in object  
>> oriented
>> programming (and maybe other programming too) the instantiation of a
>> "class" is called object. but referring to the miller's pd  
>> documentation
>> (html) there are no classes, and he calls classes "objects".
>> '"reference" patches, one for each kind of object in Pd'.
>> so even if there is the technical differentiation between that not
>> instantiated thing, usually called "class" and the instance of it,
>> called "object", that naming convention is not true for Pd.
>> both, the "class" and the instance are known as "object".
>> marius.
>
> i don't know what to say, you are so right..... :-)
>
> it's true that - regarding pd - i didn't find the term class anywhere.
> nevertheless,  i personally wouldn't be against the introduction of  
> the
> term 'class' at all, since it describes what it is anyway. no matter
> what convention is currently used, when we are talking about 'dac~' we
> are talking about the class 'dac~', even if the convention says,  
> that we
> should call it 'object'. i vote for turning the facts into conventions
> rather than sticking with conventions, which are wrong.
>
> although i absolutely see your point:
> one vote -> class (or objectclass)
>
> roman
>
>
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