[PD] "object" or "class" in pdpedia

Max Neupert abonnements at revolwear.com
Thu Sep 13 18:50:04 CEST 2007


as much as i like matjus cat example and i can't help thinking of his  
white fat shy beast roaming around his computers i have to “third”  
franks point.


Am 13.09.2007 um 10:29 schrieb Thomas Grill:

> Hi Frank,
> it's my turn now to absolutely second what you said.
>
> gr~~~
>
> Am 13.09.2007 um 15:32 schrieb Frank Barknecht:
>
>> Hallo,
>> Frank Barknecht hat gesagt: // Frank Barknecht wrote:
>>
>>> This is a "me too"-message from me: For the same reasons as Thomas
>>> I'd
>>> prefer to stick with "object". While "class" is more correct, I  
>>> think
>>> the difference is something only computer scientists are interested
>>> in and Pd has a tradition of not always following the path of
>>> mainstream computer science anyway, because it's not a tool mainly
>>> targetting computer scientists but one targetting artists. I'd say,,
>>> reserve the term class for pd-dev.
>>
>> It occured to me that it may sound like I'd try to "dumb down" Pd for
>> artists, which is not my intention, so I'd like to clarify a bit:
>>
>> We're talking about what term to use in pdpedia for the descriptions
>> of the available building blocks for patches, mainly externals and
>> abstractions. When building patches, what users (scientists and
>> artists) deal with, are objects. The only thing you can do with a
>> class when building a patch is to make an instance of it: an  
>> object of
>> the class.
>>
>> So in the pdpedia context using the term "object" for the list of
>> building blocks in my view wouldn't be wrong at all. As "object" also
>> is the term that is generally used when talking about Pd patches
>> here--as in: "Just put an [osc~] object into your patch to make a  
>> sine
>> wave." Nobody says: "Instantiate the [osc~] class to make a sine
>> wave."--it is perfectly valid to use "object/symbol" on pdpedia. IMO
>> at least.
>>
>> Ciao
>> -- 
>>  Frank Barknecht                 _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__
>>
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