[PD] fundamental hot/cold midi question

[Mathieu Bouchard]

On Wed, 26 Sep 2007, Derek Holzer wrote:

> Actually, the fact that on-screen position affects order of operations
> at all is very illogical if you ask me.

If it is so, then please figure out what to do with [inlet]s and [outlet]s 
because those objects change behaviour according to position in the patch!

> Getting used to [trigger] is fundamental to using PD. It confuses the
> hell out of workshop participants the first time you explain it,

Is it that it confuses them, or they were already confused by looking at 
pd and then you see them in the process of getting deconfused? I think 
that any significant concept will "confuse" users like that, especially if 
so far they had to make guesses and assumptions that are potentially and 
probably wrong, because they had to use a feature before understanding the 
feature.

This can be especially unavoidable near the beginning, because there is 
that big knot of concepts that would ideally need to be digested all at 
once but the conceptual stomach is not big enough to hold all those new 
concepts together. One has to start *somewhere*...

IMHO the more you delay explanations about fundamental stuff like that, 
the more you have to make students unlearn preconceptions that they built 
by practising pd without the explanations that they needed.

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