[PD] [OT] Re: about sexism is BORING

[jared]

I'm from the states....i've spent a lot of time overseas....i find it
hilarious that, on several different occasions, I've been in
conversations with Europeans who would talk bad about the US....then,
after talking shit for an hour, they always end the conversation with,
"yeah, I'm going to the US in a couple of weeks"....if its so fucking
bad why would you want to visit?  

I often hear Europeans bitching about how fat and stupid the American
culture is....well, every European country I've visited has had a
McDonalds, and there is always line of people ready to feed their
faces....don't blame the American culture....blame your citizens who
keep the American companies in business....don't get me wrong, the
American culture is FULL of ignorance....sure, we are idiots.....but who
is worse: the Idiot, or the guy who follows the idiot?

I didn't vote for Bush...neither did half of the American
voters...that's over 150 million United States citizens who didn't vote
for Bush and his foreign policy (and domestic policies)...so please,
don't lump everyone together....Make love not war!  

:-)

peace


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wow, only a few pages before the inevitable usa bashing.

BORING.

last i checked the primary developer of pd was an american, yes?









---- marius schebella <marius.schebella at gmail.com> wrote: 
> Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
> 
> >> Americans today make ironic references to the "Axis of Evil" and
the 
> >> "war on terror" and "homeland security" all the time.  It doesn't
mean 
> >> they buy it, even if the media makes it seem that way.
> > 
> > Yeah but why do they still vote for one of the two big parties?
> 
> why? I think because USamericans are fearful people. they are fearful,

> because they never learned to talk about their problematic history. 
> genocide and slavery. they just inherit the guilty consciousness 
> unprocessed from generation to generation. therefor they only feel
safe, 
> when they are protected by a big brother. they live with the idea of
the 
> survival of the fittest (make the rich richer). they never gave black 
> people compensation for their exploitation (nor any other group). as a

> matter of fact this is not only US history, but western history in 
> general, but european countries experienced worldwar II and I think
they 
> changed their way on communal thinking about racism and so on. there
was 
> some shift in common notion and also the wish to keep this notion
alive.
> USamericans subconsciously still fear revenge. and even worse, some of

> them even think it is a good idea to have a small, rich, educated 
> leading elite that controls the big majority of people. they propose a

> free market, which I see rather as a free slave market, because 
> preconditions are not fair at all for all people. they try to oppress 
> every effort of union building and their voting system is a "the
winner 
> takes it all". in europe it took green parties more than 20 years to 
> make it into gouvernments. in the US this is not possible, because
with 
> anything less than 50% you are nothing.
> and of course the US has a media that is owned by a handful of people,

> and an education system including universities that aligns itself more

> to the needs of companies and corporations than to the values of life.
> that's why "they" still vote for one of the two big parties.
> with the fall of the dollar, the raise of china, some bank crashs,
more 
> and more unemployed people, no health care, no social security I think

> people will start to vote differently within the the next 10-20 years.
> marius.
> 
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