[PD] pd-extended 39-3 libraries load

Fri Oct 12 10:27:40 CEST 2007

I experienced exactly the same thing as Luiz. When I did a fresh load of 
the extended version that you suggested (no entry in 
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Pd which was properly removed by the 
uninstall) it seemed to work decently. For example freeverb~ loaded when 
the freeverb help patch was opened in the browser. After saving the 
Path... dialog (without the freeverb path - and without changing any 
paths) the freeverb~ object no longer loaded when opening the help 
patch. Now the question is what pd-extended is doing with the search 
paths and how is it used in the Browser? For example, are all the 
browser help patches supposed to work "out-of-the-box"?
The pd settings including the search paths seems to survive 
uninstall/install procedures which is kind of neat from a user point of 
view but it makes this kind of debugging difficult.

 From the pd documentation it make sense that the freeverb~ is not found 
since it is not part of the search path. However, it would be extremely 
helpful if the "use standard extension" flag also searched the 
subdirectories in extra! I suspect that this is an old issue but it is 
even more important with the large number of directories in the 
pd-extended version.
/Anders

Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>
> The 10 items thing is a well known bug... An import help patch exists, 
> but it doesn't seem to get installed properly.  That's a bug, it 
> should be reported:
>
> http://puredata.org/dev/bugtracker/
>
> .hc
>
> On Oct 11, 2007, at 5:30 PM, Luiz Naveda wrote:
>
>> Hi Hans,
>>
>> The problem (for me) is not exactly loading extended libraries at
>> start up. The problem starts when you try to modify the path slots in
>> the file menu. After this I don't know what happens...Some libraries
>> are missing...
>>
>> And I start to ask myself: Why ten? If I overwrite one slot I miss the
>> overwrote library? I've checked the registry and the adresses were
>> there...
>>
>> To complete, after rewrite the registry...nothing loads...and I have
>> to reinstall PD, again
>>
>> I already checked the docs and the information is cloudy...for me.
>> This affect directly the modularity and development of libraries.Is it
>> possible to create a super-searching path (with subdirectory search)?
>> So, if you want load something, just throw the folder there.
>>
>> [import] doesnt work, and it has no docs, until now
>> I am using Pd version 0.39.3-extended-rc5
>>
>> Best
>>
>> Luiz
>>
>> On 10/10/07, Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at eds.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I haven't been able to reproduce this problem.  All of the libraries 
>>> should
>>> be loaded by default.  This is how it worked for me on the two WinXP
>>> machines I've tested on.
>>>
>>> Perhaps there is something stuck in the registry that is causing 
>>> problems.
>>> Try deleting the Pd registry settings.  Delete this whole folder:
>>>
>>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Pd
>>>
>>> Careful!  You can really screw things up if you delete the wrong thing.
>>> Then try reinstalling using this version:
>>>
>>> http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2007-10-10/Pd-0.39.3-extended-windowsxp-i386.exe 
>>>
>>>
>>> If that doesn't work, please file a bug report with as much 
>>> information as
>>> possible.
>>>
>>> .hc
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 10, 2007, at 5:05 AM, Anders Friberg wrote:
>>>  I had for a long time similar struggles related to missing objects in
>>> pd-extended.
>>>  To use the colon as separator does not seem to work on Windows - which
>>> makes sense since paths usually contain a colon as well.
>>>  And if I want to use all libs in extended I have to list 51 paths 
>>> since
>>> that is the number of folders in /pd/extra/!
>>>  And it is very confusing (especially for a beginner) when the help 
>>> patches
>>> in the browser do not work from the beginning.
>>>  It would be wonderful to have a "working out-of-the-box" solution 
>>> to this
>>> problem. (and yes - I clicked the reg file)
>>>  pd-extended is a great effort and if this issue can be solved it would
>>> improve the usability enormously.
>>>  /Anders
>>>
>>>  Max Neupert wrote:
>>>  Am 07.10.2007 um 07:12 schrieb Luiz Naveda:
>>>
>>>
>>>  Nowdays I have had a strange problem. I have my own library which
>>> depends on some other libraris from PD extended. When I have to
>>> install it in other computers, I put my folders in 2 of the 10 slot-
>>> path but normally it misses 3 or 4 other libraries, so I start to
>>> look for the missing objects and rewrite all missing libraries in
>>> the 10 slots...
>>>
>>>  to add more entries you may use the : as a separator as described 
>>> here:
>>>
>>> http://puredata.org/docs/tutorials/TipsAndTricks#add-more-entries-to-
>>> the-path-and-library-dialogs
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