[PD] PD-list Digest, Vol 32, Issue 7
Simon Kilshaw
Simon.Kilshaw at rwcmd.ac.uk
Fri Nov 2 23:28:44 CET 2007
Have you tried menubar 0 attached to gemwin?
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: minimize mac (Max Neupert)
2. Re: minimize mac (hard off)
3. Re: hide menubar on Mac OS X/Pd-extended.app (marius schebella)
4. Re: minimize mac (marius schebella)
5. Re: Fun with Lua coroutines (Frank Barknecht)
6. (no subject) (info at timvets.net)
7. Re: minimize mac (Mathieu Bouchard)
8. a job posting for Paris (David Schaffer)
9. VBAP, pd-extended, OS X - or distributing players among a
ring of speakers (David NG McCallum)
10. Re: minimize mac (info at timvets.net)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 13:41:59 +0100
From: Max Neupert <abonnements at revolwear.com>
Subject: Re: [PD] minimize mac
To: Hans Roels <hans.roels at versateladsl.be>
Cc: pd-list at iem.at
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(my) pd windows have a yellow minimize (minus) button in its window bar.
but pd uses the minimize command (Apple + M) for the message window
instead, so there is no shortcut for it AFAIK
sometimes there are no scroll-bars allthough there should be. but
that gets resorted as soon as one resizes the window a bit.
Am 02.11.2007 um 11:38 schrieb Hans Roels:
> hello,
> I am used to a windows computer but I have to work on Mac (OS X
> 10.3.9) with PD-vanilla (40.2) installed. Often I can't scroll to the
> bottom of a big pd-patch, what is the trick to see every part of a
> patch in Mac? can you minimize or maximize the windows in PD on Mac?
> I tried command + M and these kind of tricks but nothing works, PD
> also doensn't have a - or + button in the title bar to
> minimize/maximize the window.
> I guess there must be a special Mac-trick to solve this... it's very
> annoying now!
>
> hans r
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 22:05:21 +0900
From: "hard off" <hard.off at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PD] minimize mac
To: "Max Neupert" <abonnements at revolwear.com>
Cc: pd-list at iem.at
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i feel your pain mate,
i have a mac, and sometimes i get other people's patches, and the
bottom corner of the patch goes below the bottom of the screen and it
is impossible to resize.
the workaround i use is to copy the entire patch into a new window and
'save as'
if there is a real solution, then i have never heard about it, but i
have my doubts that it can be fixed with the current way pd is
implemented.
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 09:10:57 -0400
From: marius schebella <marius.schebella at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PD] hide menubar on Mac OS X/Pd-extended.app
To: Alexandre Quessy <listes at sourcelibre.com>
Cc: pd-list at iem.kug.ac.at
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Hi alexandre,
I am not sure, if there is such a feature included, but I can help you
with what I think is the most recent build of os x 10.3;
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=55736&package_id=76013
marius.
Alexandre Quessy wrote:
> Hi ! Nice to read you.
>
> Talking about the [menubar -1< message to [gemwin]
>
>
> It only works on pd-extended Mac OS X 10.4, and not 10.3, it seems.
> Tested on both today. Or, maybe it is only that the build is too old
> to have that patch in. Is there a pd-extended or Gem build that has
> this feature ? Maybe I should compile it, but installing the build
> tools and the libs is not easy as on Linux. :)
>
> So, will I have to install Tiger, or is there a quicker workaround ?
>
> Thanks,
> a
>
>
>
>
> 2007/7/12, Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at eds.org>:
>> Doh! I didn't know that... it would be nice if such things were
>> documented. Currently:
>>
>> hans at palatschinken:~ > grep menubar ~/code/pure-data/Gem/help/*
>> hans at palatschinken:~ >
>>
>> .hc
>>
>> On Jul 12, 2007, at 12:57 PM, chris clepper wrote:
>>
>>> [menubar -1( should be the equivalent of what Hans posted. [menubar
>>> 0( can lock out the mouse and keyboard.
>>>
>>> [border 0( will remove the title bar if that shows.
>>>
>>> On 7/11/07, Max Neupert <abonnements at revolwear.com> wrote:
>>>> why so complicated if
>>>> [menubar 0(
>>>> just works?
>>>>
>>>> Am 11.07.2007 um 15:21 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner:
>>>>
>>>>> If you've ever wanted to have Gem be full screen on the primary
>>>>> screen, I
>>>>> have found a way. It's called "LSUIPresentationMode". Basically,
>>>>> using
>>>>> Property List Editor.app, open Pd-extended.app/Contents/
>>>>> Info.plist. Add a
>>>>> "New Child" to "Root". Call that node "LSUIPresentationMode",
>>>>> change the
>>>>> data type to "Number" and set the data to be "4". Then when you
>>>>> launch
>>>>> Pd-extended.app, the Menubar and Dock will auto-hide themselves.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here are some other modes:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://developer.apple.com/documentation/MacOSX/Conceptual/
>>>>> BPRuntimeConfig/Articles/PListKeys.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/
>>>>> 20001431-113616
>>>>>
>>>>> .hc
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> zen
>>>>> \
>>>>> \
>>>>> \ [D [D [D [D
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 09:16:39 -0400
From: marius schebella <marius.schebella at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PD] minimize mac
To: hard off <hard.off at gmail.com>
Cc: pd-list at iem.at
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hi,
one possibility is, to open the patch with a texteditor
and edit the first line
the 5 numbers are offset x/y, size x/y, fontsize.
#N canvas 20 20 800 600 10;
marius.
hard off wrote:
> i feel your pain mate,
>
> i have a mac, and sometimes i get other people's patches, and the
> bottom corner of the patch goes below the bottom of the screen and it
> is impossible to resize.
>
> the workaround i use is to copy the entire patch into a new window and
> 'save as'
>
> if there is a real solution, then i have never heard about it, but i
> have my doubts that it can be fixed with the current way pd is
> implemented.
>
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 15:56:40 +0100
From: Frank Barknecht <fbar at footils.org>
Subject: Re: [PD] Fun with Lua coroutines
To: pd-list at iem.at
Message-ID: <20071102145640.GP28311 at fliwatut.scifi>
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Hallo,
Steffen Juul hat gesagt: // Steffen Juul wrote:
> Ah, ok. It was especially the 'BibTex fashion' that got me curious.
> Now i know what you mean by 'fashion'. I think. There is no nesting
> in BibTeX for what i know of though.
>
> All that blah blah said i think what your write about the structured-
> ness is a good thing, as it allows for a (BibTeX kinda) way of
> handling/doing multi diminutional arrays even with strings as keys.
>
> - Which in a PHP fashion could be like:
>
> Instruments[bass][tb303][cutoff] = 10
> Instruments[bass][tb303][cf] = 440
> Instruments[drumm] = drummset1
>
> Patterns[p1] = "1 0 0 0 1 0 0 1"
> Patterns[p2] = "0 0 1 0 0 0 1 0"
>
> Score[bass] = p1
> Score[drum] = p2
A nice thing with Lua would/could be that many entries actually could
be code. For example one could define harmonic voices in the config
file as functions like:
function major7(n) return {n, n + 4, n + 7, n + 10} end
and use this with the instruments:
sax(major7(60))
or
c = major7(60)
sax.play(c)
trumpet.play(c)
c = minor7(62)
sax.play(c)
...
I don't know if it makes sense to write a general purpose file loader
around this, but I plan to do some examples of this approach.
Ciao
--
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org__
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 08:30:01 -0700 (PDT)
From: info at timvets.net
Subject: [PD] (no subject)
To: hans.roels at versateladsl.be
Cc: pd-list at iem.at
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Sometimes this happens here on ubuntu too. Quite annoying.
Resizing does not always help.
What I do then is CTRL+a and SHIFT+arrow-keys to move the contents of the
patch.
= Slow if its a big patch.
Dividing your big patch into smaller subpatches is better I guess.
Tim
marius schebella wrote:
> hi,
> one possibility is, to open the patch with a texteditor
> and edit the first line
> the 5 numbers are offset x/y, size x/y, fontsize.
> #N canvas 20 20 800 600 10;
> marius.
>
> hard off wrote:
>> i feel your pain mate,
>>
>> i have a mac, and sometimes i get other people's patches, and the
>> bottom corner of the patch goes below the bottom of the screen and it
>> is impossible to resize.
>>
>> the workaround i use is to copy the entire patch into a new window and
>> 'save as'
>>
>> if there is a real solution, then i have never heard about it, but i
>> have my doubts that it can be fixed with the current way pd is
>> implemented.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> PD-list at iem.at mailing list
>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management ->
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
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>
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 11:58:20 -0400 (EDT)
From: Mathieu Bouchard <matju at artengine.ca>
Subject: Re: [PD] minimize mac
To: info at timvets.net
Cc: pd-list at iem.at
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On Fri, 2 Nov 2007, info at timvets.net wrote:
> Sometimes this happens here on ubuntu too. Quite annoying.
> Resizing does not always help.
> What I do then is CTRL+a and SHIFT+arrow-keys to move the contents of the
> patch.
> = Slow if its a big patch.
> Dividing your big patch into smaller subpatches is better I guess.
Usually on Linux you can resize a window by dragging with Alt+Button3
(right button of mouse) but some window managers set it to Alt+Button2
instead (wheel button or thumb button) and some allow to reconfigure the
"Alt" part to something else (e.g. Windows key or Menu key)
What do you mean, "resizing does not always help"?
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| Mathieu Bouchard - t?l:+1.514.383.3801, Montr?al QC Canada
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 17:12:43 +0100
From: "David Schaffer" <schafferdavid at hotmail.com>
Subject: [PD] a job posting for Paris
To: "pd list" <pd-list at iem.at>
Message-ID: <BAY143-DAV17CF037D3BDF6087B7BD79BF8D0 at phx.gbl>
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Hi everibody,
I came across this Paris Based Max/Pd programmer job offer on the web today, those of you with C++ knowledge might be interested:
http://www.irma.asso.fr/offre15092.html
http://www.flickr.com/photos/schafferdavid/
http://audioblog.arteradio.com/David_Schaffer/
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 10:32:17 -0400
From: David NG McCallum <d at mentalfloss.ca>
Subject: [PD] VBAP, pd-extended, OS X - or distributing players among
a ring of speakers
To: the PureData - mailinglist <pd-list at iem.at>
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hi!
I was trying to get VBAP working in OS X from the latest pd-extended and
I seemed to get all sorts of errors that indicated that VBAP is broken
in this release.
Defining loudspeakers gives the error:
error: vbap: no method for 'loudspeaker-matrices'
... which seems kind of weird.
[vbap] also seems to have only one inlet. Is that correct?
At any rate, what I'm trying to accomplish is to distribute several
channels of audio evenly over several speakers (actually, a ring of
speakers, to the first and last speakers should share some of the
soundfield space). At this point, the number of speakers can be fixed,
but the number of channels needs to be variable to accommodate an
unknown number of performers.
Any thoughts about the brokenness of VBAP or solutions to distributing
the audio?
Thanks!
D!
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 09:21:34 -0700 (PDT)
From: info at timvets.net
Subject: Re: [PD] minimize mac
To: matju at artengine.ca
Cc: pd-list at iem.at
Message-ID: <3735.208.97.187.133.1194020494.squirrel at mail.timvets.net>
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Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
>
> What do you mean, "resizing does not always help"?
>
Resizing the window doesn't always cause a scrollbar to appear.
Tim
> _ _ __ ___ _____ ________ _____________ _____________________ ...
> | Mathieu Bouchard - t?l:+1.514.383.3801, Montr?al QC Canada
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