[PD] [-SPAM-] changing the look of Pd to be more readable

[Roman Haefeli]

On Sat, 2007-11-03 at 20:08 -0400, marius schebella wrote:
> Hi Hans,
> I saw that you filled the boxes now with grey.
> actually I do not agree with roman, that this looks better, I think the 
> contrast is smaller and therefore text is less readable for me.

though it probably slightly minimizes the contrast a bit, i don't think,
that this is basically true with the _very_ light grey hans has chosen.
turn the brightness level of your screen down by one level and you have
the very same contrast in old pd style as well. does it really make a
difference in readibility?

> I would prefer white object background.

the idea came up, because hans proposed to use grey for the borders and
with grey borders, the objects seemed to kind of disappear. it was a way
to separate the objects better from the canvas background. 

what would you actually prefer? grey borders and white filled objects?
or just status quo? 
(i want to add: i do not dislike pd's actual appearance at all, but i am
interested to see, if it could be improved )

roman

 

> Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
> > On Nov 3, 2007, at 7:28 PM, Jamie Bullock wrote:
> > 
> >> On Sat, 2007-11-03 at 14:24 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
> >>> I think there is a lot that could be done to the look and feel of Pd
> >>> that would make it much more efficient and usable.  I think it is
> >>> crucial to avoid flashiness, one of Pd's strengths is its lack of
> >>> flashiness (no segmented patch cords! ;)  But small things can make a
> >>> big difference.
> >>>
> >> I really like some of these ideas, and I do agree that a few subtle
> >> visual nuances would bring Pd's UI into the 21st century! I always
> >> thought that om/ingen (http://wiki.drobilla.net/Ingen) had a a really
> >> nice UI - just the right combination of minimalist simplicity and
> >> graphical niceness (anti-aliased splines!). Maybe we can steal some
> >> ideas from that.
> >>
> >> Can I put a vote in for _not_ putting arrows on the end of patch  
> >> chords.
> >> This is one of the features of Desire Data that I really don't like
> >> since it adds no additional information to the patch (it isn't  
> >> possible
> >> to connect from inlets to outlets), and it adds visual noise.
> >>
> >> Jamie
> >>
> >> -- 
> >> www.postlude.co.uk
> > 
> > I'm going to try to get a version of this into the Pd-extended auto- 
> > build for tonight:
> > 
> > http://eds.org/~hans/pdsketch/solidboxes+color.png
> > 
> > I'll made the colors settable in the pd.tk so people can make it look  
> > the "old way" without too much trouble.  Perhaps it could be a  
> > command line flag, something like: -orthodox  ;)
> > 
> > .hc
> > 
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