[PD] changing the look of Pd to be more readable

marius schebella marius.schebella at gmail.com
Sun Nov 4 21:25:38 CET 2007

Roman Haefeli wrote:
> On Sun, 2007-11-04 at 13:36 -0500, marius schebella wrote:
>> The gui has to be a mixture of both,
> "bamm.. here i am and i know _exactly_, what needs to be done... "
> i like your diplomatic way  ;-)

you think I am diplomatic? I take that as a compliment...

>> Use something 
>> different for the interface and run pd -nogui.
> here i think you are _very_ wrong by saying this. have you ever used
> datastructures? have you ever had a look at netpd? especially at
> syntax_the_nerd's bon-* patches? have you ever had a look at the gop
> abstractions of pdmtl? not to mentionen all the stuff that i forgot to
> list here?

I think it is amazing how much you and pdmtl are able to get out of pd, 
but (and sorry I don't know how to put this diplomaticly) I think these 
interfaces are at least 2 generations away from what a good interface 
could look like. hey, I love pd, and I will do my best to work on all 
that stuff that I am permanently complaining about.
but think! - and don't get me wrong, because I know that your work is 
not recognized and valued enough - given the hours that you put into 
netpd and given the accessability of Pd in general I would assume this 
application to be about 1000 times more successful. And the reason why 
it is not, is, I think the lack of a better interface. I am talking 
about at least 1000 kids permanently using it, making music with their 

I think I lose my diplomacy, because I am angry when I see the waste of 
time that people put into patching using an unsatisfying software and 
not having the success they should have.


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