[PD] changing the look of Pd to be more readable

[Roman Haefeli]

On Sun, 2007-11-04 at 15:25 -0500, marius schebella wrote:

> I think it is amazing how much you and pdmtl are able to get out of pd, 
> but (and sorry I don't know how to put this diplomaticly) I think these 
> interfaces are at least 2 generations away from what a good interface 
> could look like. 

though i basically agree with you, i am not quite sure, what needs to be
done to change that. what makes a interface a good interface? are you
talking only about the appearance? or also about the functionality? 

> hey, I love pd, and I will do my best to work on all 
> that stuff that I am permanently complaining about.
> but think! - and don't get me wrong, because I know that your work is 
> not recognized and valued enough - 

you said that, not me... (i don't feel like my work should be valued
'more'. though, of course, i am happy seeing people using my stuff)

> given the hours that you put into netpd

and, more important, all the people who contributed with patches and
hours of testing....
 
> and given the accessability of Pd in general

just because it is free doesn't automatically mean that it is accessible
to everyone. i would even say, that pd in general is one of the lesser
accessible softwares i know (probably just because it is such an
interesting and versatile software)

>  I would assume this 
> application to be about 1000 times more successful.
>  And the reason why 
> it is not, is, I think the lack of a better interface. I am talking 
> about at least 1000 kids permanently using it, making music with their 
> friends.

maybe you are right, maybe not. i am not sure about this. however, this
is not the point of the discussion. the initial discussion was only
about changing the appearance of pd in order make patches more readable,
not about having more and fancier guis for - i call them now - 'end
product' patches. but i totally agree with you, that in this area of the
'end product' patches a _lot_ could still be achieved.

> I think I lose my diplomacy, because I am angry when I see the waste of 
> time that people put into patching using an unsatisfying software and 
> not having the success they should have.

i totally agree.

cheers
roman



		
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