[PD] changing the look of Pd to be more readable

Hans-Christoph Steiner hans at eds.org
Mon Nov 5 19:24:39 CET 2007

On Nov 5, 2007, at 12:46 PM, Luke Iannini (pd) wrote:

> I think it would be possible to do something like that in Pd and the
> iemguis, since you can move them with messages.
> There is an alpha version of [cursor] in today's build which will
> give you the mouse cursor position.  I just got some ideas of how to
> do it better, so it should be better tomorrow. :)
> If someone wants to try to do this, I am willing to do the work to
> fill in the gaps in Pd so that it's possible.
> Hm, if it was possible to do in Pd I'd /absolutely, without a  
> doubt/ implement it.  Cursor position is gettable with toxy, by the  
> way?

[tot] can get the mouse pointer posution, but only for when the mouse  
pointer is in a window. The idea of [cursor] is to get the mouse  
pointer coords always.

> The iemguis allowing movement by messages is cool, but it wouldn't  
> help for regular objects of course.  Offhand the pieces needed  
> would be:
> Query Pd for the IDs of the currently selected objects
> Query Pd for the position of an object id
> Move any object by message.
> I guess you'd need namecanvas in every patch being manipulated (hm,  
> how would you capture the key commands?  [key] needs focus, and  
> [hid] wouldn't know what's focused?)...

I meant start this for GUI objects not all objects (just yet).   
That's a much bigger  question, but  I just thought a possibility  
that I'll look into.

Also, if you are interested in more advanced GUI tweaks, check out  
toxy, there is a lot of stuff you can do with it.  There is not help  
file for [tow] or [widget], so anything you might create would be a  
vast improvement. [tot]'s help patch could really use more examples.   
In Pd-extended, there are a bunch of examples in Help->Browser- 



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