[PD] stupid GUI tricks

[Dafydd Hughes]

I may have spoke too soon, but I found the answer to alpha here:

 >>>>> http://eds.org/~hans/pdsketch/stupidguitricks.png

Still trying to figure out how the background colour works (can't make 
it go by copying the patch in the screenshot), but the object colouring 
came from Hans' themer.pd patch - can't find the original email tho:(

cheers
dafydd

Phil Stone wrote:
> Care to let me in on the secret?  I was messing with it at lunch, and 
> couldn't for the life of me figure out how to change the background 
> color of an object.
> 
> 
> Phil
> 
> Dafydd Hughes wrote:
>> Forget it. I was indeed missing what was right in front of me.
>>
>> Dafydd Hughes wrote:
>>  
>>> Hey Hans
>>>
>>> I'm _dying_to try this, but can't figure out how to access it. Are 
>>> there new commands for the themer patch? Or am I (like usual) just 
>>> missing what's right in front of me?
>>>
>>> cheers
>>> dafydd
>>>
>>> Jerome Tuncer wrote:
>>>    
>>>> In my opinion, this is not _stupid_ GUI tricks at all...
>>>>
>>>> Being asked on the differences between Pd and Max/MSP, how many 
>>>> times have I answered starting with "The GUI in pd isn't really as 
>>>> cool and smart as it is in Max/MSP but the DSP capabilities are in 
>>>> the end very similar".
>>>>
>>>> My answer to the lack of GUI elegance is very often a salad of 
>>>> overlaying [cnv]'s to make patches look more attractive and thus 
>>>> very often more readable.
>>>>
>>>> This kind of effort is not stupid, it is great GUI improvement in my 
>>>> opinion.
>>>>
>>>> ++
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> J?
>>>>
>>>> Another off-thread thing : I'm really looking forward to the day pd 
>>>> will not suffer that much from its GUI implementation : simple 
>>>> slider or table visualization/monitoring sometimes being the main 
>>>> reason for a ultra complex DSP patch to bo so heavy on the 
>>>> computer/resources ! (-:
>>>>
>>>> Hans-Christoph Steiner a ?crit :
>>>>      
>>>>> Ok, all this Tcl/Tk has started to rot my brain, so here are some  
>>>>> stupid GUI tricks:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://eds.org/~hans/pdsketch/stupidguitricks.png
>>>>>
>>>>> - change patch background colors in a patch!
>>>>> - make your patches transparent!
>>>>> - use lots of Tcl/Tk config options!
>>>>>
>>>>> Works on my machine :D and hopefully tomorrow's auto-builds...
>>>>>
>>>>> http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2007-11-08/
>>>>>
>>>>> (if that link does work, it's not there yet)
>>>>>
>>>>> .hc
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>> The arc of history bends towards justice.     - Dr. Martin Luther  
>>>>> King, Jr.
>>>>>
>>>>>
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