[PD] stupid GUI tricks

Hans-Christoph Steiner hans at eds.org
Thu Nov 8 22:46:30 CET 2007


The patches are window_name-help.pd and canvas_name-help.pd in  
"5.reference/hcs".  In needs to be today's build.  It seems that  
[canvas_name] didn't make it into some, I'll check once I get a moment.

.hc

On Nov 8, 2007, at 4:22 PM, Dafydd Hughes wrote:

> I may have spoke too soon, but I found the answer to alpha here:
>
>>>>>> http://eds.org/~hans/pdsketch/stupidguitricks.png
>
> Still trying to figure out how the background colour works (can't make
> it go by copying the patch in the screenshot), but the object  
> colouring
> came from Hans' themer.pd patch - can't find the original email tho:(
>
> cheers
> dafydd
>
> Phil Stone wrote:
>> Care to let me in on the secret?  I was messing with it at lunch, and
>> couldn't for the life of me figure out how to change the background
>> color of an object.
>>
>>
>> Phil
>>
>> Dafydd Hughes wrote:
>>> Forget it. I was indeed missing what was right in front of me.
>>>
>>> Dafydd Hughes wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey Hans
>>>>
>>>> I'm _dying_to try this, but can't figure out how to access it. Are
>>>> there new commands for the themer patch? Or am I (like usual) just
>>>> missing what's right in front of me?
>>>>
>>>> cheers
>>>> dafydd
>>>>
>>>> Jerome Tuncer wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In my opinion, this is not _stupid_ GUI tricks at all...
>>>>>
>>>>> Being asked on the differences between Pd and Max/MSP, how many
>>>>> times have I answered starting with "The GUI in pd isn't really as
>>>>> cool and smart as it is in Max/MSP but the DSP capabilities are in
>>>>> the end very similar".
>>>>>
>>>>> My answer to the lack of GUI elegance is very often a salad of
>>>>> overlaying [cnv]'s to make patches look more attractive and thus
>>>>> very often more readable.
>>>>>
>>>>> This kind of effort is not stupid, it is great GUI improvement  
>>>>> in my
>>>>> opinion.
>>>>>
>>>>> ++
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> J?
>>>>>
>>>>> Another off-thread thing : I'm really looking forward to the  
>>>>> day pd
>>>>> will not suffer that much from its GUI implementation : simple
>>>>> slider or table visualization/monitoring sometimes being the main
>>>>> reason for a ultra complex DSP patch to bo so heavy on the
>>>>> computer/resources ! (-:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hans-Christoph Steiner a ?crit :
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ok, all this Tcl/Tk has started to rot my brain, so here are some
>>>>>> stupid GUI tricks:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://eds.org/~hans/pdsketch/stupidguitricks.png
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - change patch background colors in a patch!
>>>>>> - make your patches transparent!
>>>>>> - use lots of Tcl/Tk config options!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Works on my machine :D and hopefully tomorrow's auto-builds...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2007-11-08/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (if that link does work, it's not there yet)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> .hc
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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