[PD] stupid GUI tricks

Hans-Christoph Steiner hans at eds.org
Fri Nov 9 21:53:22 CET 2007


One thing I forgot to mention is that you can uncompress a .deb then  
run the nightly build by cd'ing to /path/to/pkg/usr/local/bin then  
running ./pd

.hc

On Nov 9, 2007, at 3:24 PM, Alex wrote:

> is there a way to get at these updates without using the autobuild
> [notice that the ubuntu autobuild fails on Gem avifile..].
> I assume that these changes aren't going into the pd cvs on  
> sourceforge..
>
> -Alex
>
> On Nov 9, 2007 12:13 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at eds.org> wrote:
>>
>> On Nov 8, 2007, at 4:22 PM, Dafydd Hughes wrote:
>>
>>> I may have spoke too soon, but I found the answer to alpha here:
>>>
>>>>>>>> http://eds.org/~hans/pdsketch/stupidguitricks.png
>>>
>>> Still trying to figure out how the background colour works (can't  
>>> make
>>> it go by copying the patch in the screenshot), but the object
>>> colouring
>>> came from Hans' themer.pd patch - can't find the original email  
>>> tho:(
>>
>>
>> Doh!  I forgot to check in canvas_name.c, it'll be in tomorrow's
>> build.  Otherwise, you can do this in the meantime:
>>
>> [bang(
>> |
>> [window_name]
>> |
>> [makefilename %s.c]
>> |
>>
>> And that should give you the same thing as canvas_name, IIRC.
>>
>> .hc
>>
>>
>>>
>>> cheers
>>> dafydd
>>>
>>> Phil Stone wrote:
>>>> Care to let me in on the secret?  I was messing with it at  
>>>> lunch, and
>>>> couldn't for the life of me figure out how to change the background
>>>> color of an object.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Phil
>>>>
>>>> Dafydd Hughes wrote:
>>>>> Forget it. I was indeed missing what was right in front of me.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dafydd Hughes wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey Hans
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm _dying_to try this, but can't figure out how to access it.  
>>>>>> Are
>>>>>> there new commands for the themer patch? Or am I (like usual)  
>>>>>> just
>>>>>> missing what's right in front of me?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> cheers
>>>>>> dafydd
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jerome Tuncer wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In my opinion, this is not _stupid_ GUI tricks at all...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Being asked on the differences between Pd and Max/MSP, how many
>>>>>>> times have I answered starting with "The GUI in pd isn't  
>>>>>>> really as
>>>>>>> cool and smart as it is in Max/MSP but the DSP capabilities  
>>>>>>> are in
>>>>>>> the end very similar".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My answer to the lack of GUI elegance is very often a salad of
>>>>>>> overlaying [cnv]'s to make patches look more attractive and thus
>>>>>>> very often more readable.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This kind of effort is not stupid, it is great GUI improvement
>>>>>>> in my
>>>>>>> opinion.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ++
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> J?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Another off-thread thing : I'm really looking forward to the
>>>>>>> day pd
>>>>>>> will not suffer that much from its GUI implementation : simple
>>>>>>> slider or table visualization/monitoring sometimes being the  
>>>>>>> main
>>>>>>> reason for a ultra complex DSP patch to bo so heavy on the
>>>>>>> computer/resources ! (-:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hans-Christoph Steiner a ?crit :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ok, all this Tcl/Tk has started to rot my brain, so here are  
>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>> stupid GUI tricks:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://eds.org/~hans/pdsketch/stupidguitricks.png
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - change patch background colors in a patch!
>>>>>>>> - make your patches transparent!
>>>>>>>> - use lots of Tcl/Tk config options!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Works on my machine :D and hopefully tomorrow's auto-builds...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2007-11-08/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (if that link does work, it's not there yet)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> .hc
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> Luther
>>>>>>>> King, Jr.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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