[PD] Growing patch-window size (Was:Re: changing the look of Pd to be more readable)

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

This is definitely useful.  It would be great if you could the builds  
between 2007-11-04 and 2007-11-09 to narrow it further.  I checked in  
a few things in that time period.

.hc

On Nov 12, 2007, at 8:49 PM, simon wise wrote:

> Hans
>
> using your speedtest on my machine for the versions shows little  
> difference in the times measured (old Powerbook G4 667MHz OSX10.4.8).
>
> time to display the patch is much longer than the measured times -  
> a couple of seconds at least in the newer autobuild - and CPU reads  
> high for most of that time.
>
> I added an [osc~] to test the effect on audio - there are of course  
> dropouts during opening and closing on each build, but the  
> redrawing the window in the newer build gets much worse with audio  
> on, for example resizing the window can take several seconds. The  
> audio does not drop out during this redraw.
>
> A very interesting difference between the two builds is:
> - in the older build with audio on I can see the drawing process  
> (no dropouts) - when the window gets smaller there is no visible  
> redraw and no delay, if the window gets larger the new area is  
> imediatly drawn in white but remans white for a while before being  
> filled in, there seems no change to the area already drawn
> - in the new build the whole window is redrawn with any change in  
> window render area, with much longer waiting times when the window  
> shows many objects even if none of them change or only a small  
> change is made. When the window is made smaller the whole visible  
> area appears to be redrawn. There are still no audio dropouts but  
> now the window border takes some seconds to update (unlike the  
> older build where the border is drawn quickly but the details a  
> drawn later).
>
>
> I hope this may give some clues as to where the problem is.
>
>
> simon
>
>
>
>
> Pd-0.40.3-extended-20071104
> 61.935
> 27.534
> 27,507
> closed pd then reopened:
> 28.551
> 27.44
>
> Pd-0.40.3-extended-20071109
> 53.346
> 28.093
> 28.555
> 28.333
>
>
> On 13 Nov 2007, at 2:59 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>
>>
>> On Nov 11, 2007, at 11:12 PM, simon wise wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 12 Nov 2007, at 10:02 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> simon wise wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Playing around and testing it seems something (possibly in  
>>>>>>> the new
>>>>>>> visuals) is slowwwing down displaying/opening patches
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i've noticed the same.
>>>>>> cheers, robbert
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --   pd-0.40.3-extended-20071106
>>>>>> mac osx 10.4.8, 15" G4 PB 1.67 GHz, 1 GB ram
>>>>>
>>>>> The changes that I made to enable the different colors are really
>>>>> quite trivial so I have a hard time believing that to be the
>>>>> culprit.  But there have been quite a few changes since  
>>>>> 2007-05-01.
>>>>> Maybe try an autobuild from a month ago, before the color changes?
>>>>>
>>>>> Could you post patches that illustrate the slow loading?
>>>>
>>>> I'll try earlier versions to see when the problem happened - but it
>>>> is true of ALL patches - whenever they are redrawn it takes  
>>>> extra CPU
>>>> time by the Pd-0.40.3-extended process. I'll keep  
>>>> exploring   ... but
>>>> so far:
>>>>
>>>> CPU peaks when a patch is opened, the window is resized or moved  
>>>> onto
>>>> the screen (the CPU usage depends on the number of elements  
>>>> currently
>>>> visible in the patch window).
>>>>
>>>> CPU is not affected when windows are moved inside the screen
>>>> boundaries or covered/uncovered by other windows, dialogue boxes  
>>>> etc.
>>>
>>> another odd, unhelpful behaviour and possibly a useful detail:
>>>
>>> when a GOP abstraction is open while editing (ie it is showing as a
>>> grey rectangle) and the grey rectangle is moved then CPU usage goes
>>> up and the abstraction's window in the background is (very
>>> redundantly) redrawn
>>
>> I made no changes there.  You are beginning to discover for yourself
>> the inspiration behind Desire Data. :)
>>
>> .hc
>>
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