[PD] who is using [entry]?

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

So are these going to be separate objects?  It seems that it would be  
possible to make the embedded sqlite deterministic, but the libdbi  
object should be organized around the idea that the response time is  
not known (i.e. it's not going to happen in one Pd clock tick).  Then  
it'll be possible to use it with any database over any connection.

.hc

On Nov 26, 2007, at 4:17 PM, Mike McGonagle wrote:

> Thanks Hans, I think I have a working external for use with SQLite  
> standalone, now it is time to tackle the libdbi version (I need to  
> figure out why Fink is dysfunctional and won't let me finish the  
> libdbi install).
>
> Thanks for your help on this.
>
>
> Mike
>
>
> On Nov 26, 2007 2:34 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at eds.org> wrote:
>
> FYI: I have shifted development to the tkwidgets version currnetly  
> called [text].  I've stopped working on the original [entry].   
> tkwidgets should be built and included in tomorrow's nightly build,  
> or you can build from source in 'externals/tkwidgets'.
>
> [key %( and [key ~( are working for me, but the others are not.   
> I'll see about implementing the symbolic names for everything (i.e.  
> "rightbracket", "doublequote", etc.).
>
> I am definitely interested supporting your idea of constructing SQL  
> statements in [text], so let me know what works and what doesn't.   
> I think there will be some wierdness inevitably since it'll have to  
> work around Pd type system for things like backslash.
>
> .hc
>
>
> On Nov 19, 2007, at 7:25 PM, Mike McGonagle wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Hans, once again, I hit just reply instead of reply to all...
>>
>> I did a quick test on the key message, and it appears that some  
>> keys are still not allowed. Such things as a double quote ("), a  
>> percent sign (%), and left bracket ([) (but it does allow a right  
>> bracket), the backslash (\) and a tilde (~). All of these  
>> characters can be typed directly into the [text] widget.
>>
>> While I know some of the characters are special in PD, some of  
>> these things are probably needed to support the full character set  
>> that SQL can recognize.
>>
>> I was hoping that I could use a [text] object as a buffer to  
>> create multiple SQL statements that would get sent to the server  
>> as a group. I kind of think this would be useful in storing data  
>> in a database, in hopes of keeping down the number of things sent  
>> to the server at once. I was toying with the idea of adding this  
>> to the SQL external itself, but I seem to be running into a  
>> problem that I can't troubleshoot, as it doesn't appear to have  
>> any rhyme or reason as to why it acts that way.
>>
>> Thanks for your help,
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> On Nov 19, 2007 4:10 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner < hans at eds.org>  
>> wrote:
>>
>> I cc'ed the list since it's of general interest.
>>
>> This message is called [append( for lists/atoms and [key( for  
>> individual keystrokes (i.e. "space" makes a space char).
>>
>> .hc
>>
>> On Nov 19, 2007, at 4:17 PM, Mike McGonagle wrote:
>>
>>> Hans,
>>>
>>> I was wondering if it would be possible to add some messages that  
>>> [text] would use to append its buffer? I would think things  
>>> similar to what a message box already understands, things like  
>>> 'add', 'add2', 'addsemi', 'addcomma', 'adddollar', and  
>>> 'adddollarsym'.
>>>
>>> Or is there something already in place?
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 14, 2007 2:32 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner < hans at eds.org>  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Nov 14, 2007, at 1:54 PM, Mike McGonagle wrote:
>>>
>>> > On 11/14/07, Hans-Christoph Steiner < hans at eds.org> wrote:
>>> >> Right, not directly.  This hopefully will allow people to do  
>>> things
>>> >> like write SQL queries in [text] or have a chat app that  
>>> allows all
>>> >> punctuation.
>>> >>
>>> >> Since each key typed outputs a [key ( messages from the right  
>>> status
>>> >> outlet, it would be possible to make an object which would let  
>>> you
>>> >> create messages separated by commas, if you wanted.
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> > I was playing with 'entry' in the 4 extended (one of the  
>>> nightly build
>>> > from last week), and I noticed that there was not an indication of
>>> > there being a second outlet on the right, but it is there.
>>>
>>> Fix in CVS>
>>>
>>> > I also
>>> > noted that there is no 'help' file for it, but it was there in  
>>> the 39
>>> > extended.
>>>
>>> Yeah, the help file problem is thruout 0.40.3-extended builds  
>>> AFAIK...
>>>
>>> > Also, is there some way to change the font size? As it is right  
>>> now
>>> > the font is really small.
>>>
>>> Coming soon... :) (or build tkwidgets from source)
>>>
>>> .hc
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