[PD] About editing pdpedia

Wed Nov 28 09:15:56 CET 2007

Hans,

Thanks.
I am terribly sorry to bother you with this.

To my eyes, the following two pages look almost identical.

http://wiki.puredata.info/en/MediaWiki:Common.css
http://wiki.puredata.info/ja/MediaWiki:Common.css

http://wiki.puredata.info/en/Template:Infobox_Objectclass
http://wiki.puredata.info/ja/Template:Infobox_Objectclass

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After you've kindly executed the import, I was imagining
that for example,

http://wiki.puredata.info/ja/line
would be filled with English contents identical to

http://wiki.puredata.info/ja/line

Unless I've done something wrong, I am imagining I've
translated terms I shouldn't have in the original template.
Say, for example, is 'Category:' parsed exceptionally for
specific actions? Then it shouldn't have been replaced
with multi byte characters of my language.

Any ideas?

--
David Shimamoto

> On Nov 27, 2007, at 12:03 AM, PSPunch wrote:
> 
>>
>> Hans,
>>
>>
>>> Ok, it's running, it'll take an hour or two.  You can see the pages as
>>> they are imported:
>>> http://wiki.puredata.info/ja/minimum
>>
>> Thanks for the effort!
>>
>> Yes, I see the log increasing as a reload the "recent changes" page.
>> Is it just me or is it general to get excited watching
>> massive data being crunched right in front of your very eyes?
>>
>> Some pages I opened were just blank.
>> I wonder if this is because the original English page
>> is also blank... any way I will wait for the processing to end.
> 
> There shouldn't be blank pages, but they will just be templates with the 
> infobox and the categories setup.
> 
>>> Next, you need to add the CSS and Infobox template then the infobox
>>> stuff will show up.
>>
>> I feel I've already done this following the "admin HOW-TO".
>> If it gets over written, I guess I can just try again.
> 
> I think it's still missing the CSS, that should be listed on the HOWTO.  
> That's why the Infobox isn't showing up.
> 
> .hc
> 
> 
>>
>>
>>> doh itashimashite  (that's one of my favorite words in japanese :D )
>>
>> Yes, domo-arigato-gozaimas!!
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> .hc
>>>
>>> On Nov 24, 2007, at 8:30 PM, PSPunch wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hans,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Most of the main page is taken from the documents kindly prepared
>>>> by Tetsuya Saito. The objectclass template page mainly has terms
>>>> unified with the main page. So for that part I feel comfortable to
>>>> proceed.
>>>>
>>>> I'd appreciate it if you can execute the import.
>>>> Thanks. :)
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> David Shimamoto
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I can execute the import whenever you're ready.  Maybe it would be 
>>>>> good
>>>>> to have one more Japanese speaker look at the template?  It's up to 
>>>>> you.
>>>>>
>>>>> .hc
>>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 19, 2007, at 9:57 PM, PSPunch wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hans,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>> I've followed the procedure in the English 'Admin howtos' pages.
>>>>>> I would appreciate it if you could try executing the import.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> David Shimamoto
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Nov 19, 2007, at 2:20 AM, PSPunch wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi list,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have some questions for some of you working on pdpedia.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> =======
>>>>>>>> 1.
>>>>>>>> Has there already been discussions on policies regarding when/which
>>>>>>>> pages to lock?
>>>>>>>> I am assuming that leaving everything unlocked is the way to go if
>>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>> the world were an ideal place. Are there not yet MediaWiki 
>>>>>>>> spammers?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Locking pages is basically for when people are fighting over a
>>>>>>> page.  I
>>>>>>> can't imagine that anything is so divisive in Pd that we'd need to
>>>>>>> lock
>>>>>>> pages.  So far, we haven't had any spam yet.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> =======
>>>>>>>> 2.
>>>>>>>> Regarding importing data from other languages..
>>>>>>>> For some basic pages, I have gotten away with the following
>>>>>>>> procedure.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I. Open the pdpedia page in English.
>>>>>>>> II. Enter "edit" mode and [copy] the contents in the form
>>>>>>>> III. Create an equivalent page in my language and [paste] the
>>>>>>>> material
>>>>>>>> above.
>>>>>>>> IV. Use above as a starting point to begin translation.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>> The above does not work for pages such as 'Category:vanilla'.
>>>>>>>> I don't quite understand how that content is embedded in the page.
>>>>>>>> Can some one help me on importing the list of objects?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've noticed that people working on the Spanish and Portuguese 
>>>>>>>> pages
>>>>>>>> have been successful in this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Once that translated template that you posted is ready to go, then
>>>>>>> I'll
>>>>>>> run the import.  That will generate template pages for about 2000
>>>>>>> objectclasses.  Then it's a matter of plugging in content, which
>>>>>>> can be
>>>>>>> gathered from pages in other languages, help patches, etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> .hc
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>> David Shimamoto
>>>>>>>>
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