[PD] About editing pdpedia

Hans-Christoph Steiner hans at eds.org
Thu Nov 29 05:45:24 CET 2007 

The lists are built automatically by mediawiki from every page that  
has [[Category:objectclass]] and [[Category:vanilla]] in it.

.hc

On Nov 28, 2007, at 12:12 PM, PSPunch wrote:

>
> Hans,
>
>
> Ok, I figure only the page names are copied.
>
> One last question if before I start adding text..
>
> I don't quite understand the mechanism behind pages such as,
>
> http://wiki.puredata.info/en/Category:objectclass
> http://wiki.puredata.info/en/Category:vanilla
>
> Can you please tell me where the list of objects come from?
>
> --
> David Shimamoto
>
>
>
>> Looks like you got the Infobox working now.  As for the English  
>> content,
>> none of the previous people wanted to have the English content in  
>> their
>> template import, so I didn't include it.  It's all available by  
>> clicking
>> the "English" link on the lower left of each page.
>>
>> .hc
>>
>> On Nov 28, 2007, at 3:15 AM, PSPunch wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hans,
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>> I am terribly sorry to bother you with this.
>>>
>>>
>>> To my eyes, the following two pages look almost identical.
>>>
>>> http://wiki.puredata.info/en/MediaWiki:Common.css
>>> http://wiki.puredata.info/ja/MediaWiki:Common.css
>>>
>>> http://wiki.puredata.info/en/Template:Infobox_Objectclass
>>> http://wiki.puredata.info/ja/Template:Infobox_Objectclass
>>>
>>> ---
>>> After you've kindly executed the import, I was imagining
>>> that for example,
>>>
>>> http://wiki.puredata.info/ja/line
>>> would be filled with English contents identical to
>>>
>>> http://wiki.puredata.info/ja/line
>>>
>>>
>>> Unless I've done something wrong, I am imagining I've
>>> translated terms I shouldn't have in the original template.
>>> Say, for example, is 'Category:' parsed exceptionally for
>>> specific actions? Then it shouldn't have been replaced
>>> with multi byte characters of my language.
>>>
>>> Any ideas?
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> David Shimamoto
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Nov 27, 2007, at 12:03 AM, PSPunch wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hans,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ok, it's running, it'll take an hour or two.  You can see the  
>>>>>> pages as
>>>>>> they are imported:
>>>>>> http://wiki.puredata.info/ja/minimum
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the effort!
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, I see the log increasing as a reload the "recent changes"  
>>>>> page.
>>>>> Is it just me or is it general to get excited watching
>>>>> massive data being crunched right in front of your very eyes?
>>>>>
>>>>> Some pages I opened were just blank.
>>>>> I wonder if this is because the original English page
>>>>> is also blank... any way I will wait for the processing to end.
>>>>
>>>> There shouldn't be blank pages, but they will just be templates  
>>>> with the
>>>> infobox and the categories setup.
>>>>
>>>>>> Next, you need to add the CSS and Infobox template then the  
>>>>>> infobox
>>>>>> stuff will show up.
>>>>>
>>>>> I feel I've already done this following the "admin HOW-TO".
>>>>> If it gets over written, I guess I can just try again.
>>>>
>>>> I think it's still missing the CSS, that should be listed on the  
>>>> HOWTO.
>>>> That's why the Infobox isn't showing up.
>>>>
>>>> .hc
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> doh itashimashite  (that's one of my favorite words in  
>>>>>> japanese :D )
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, domo-arigato-gozaimas!!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> .hc
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Nov 24, 2007, at 8:30 PM, PSPunch wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hans,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Most of the main page is taken from the documents kindly  
>>>>>>> prepared
>>>>>>> by Tetsuya Saito. The objectclass template page mainly has terms
>>>>>>> unified with the main page. So for that part I feel  
>>>>>>> comfortable to
>>>>>>> proceed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'd appreciate it if you can execute the import.
>>>>>>> Thanks. :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>> David Shimamoto
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I can execute the import whenever you're ready.  Maybe it  
>>>>>>>> would be
>>>>>>>> good
>>>>>>>> to have one more Japanese speaker look at the template?   
>>>>>>>> It's up to
>>>>>>>> you.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> .hc
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Nov 19, 2007, at 9:57 PM, PSPunch wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hans,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>> I've followed the procedure in the English 'Admin howtos'  
>>>>>>>>> pages.
>>>>>>>>> I would appreciate it if you could try executing the import.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>>> David Shimamoto
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 19, 2007, at 2:20 AM, PSPunch wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi list,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I have some questions for some of you working on pdpedia.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> =======
>>>>>>>>>>> 1.
>>>>>>>>>>> Has there already been discussions on policies regarding
>>>>>>>>>>> when/which
>>>>>>>>>>> pages to lock?
>>>>>>>>>>> I am assuming that leaving everything unlocked is the way to
>>>>>>>>>>> go if
>>>>>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>>>>> the world were an ideal place. Are there not yet MediaWiki
>>>>>>>>>>> spammers?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Locking pages is basically for when people are fighting  
>>>>>>>>>> over a
>>>>>>>>>> page.  I
>>>>>>>>>> can't imagine that anything is so divisive in Pd that we'd  
>>>>>>>>>> need to
>>>>>>>>>> lock
>>>>>>>>>> pages.  So far, we haven't had any spam yet.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> =======
>>>>>>>>>>> 2.
>>>>>>>>>>> Regarding importing data from other languages..
>>>>>>>>>>> For some basic pages, I have gotten away with the following
>>>>>>>>>>> procedure.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I. Open the pdpedia page in English.
>>>>>>>>>>> II. Enter "edit" mode and [copy] the contents in the form
>>>>>>>>>>> III. Create an equivalent page in my language and [paste]  
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> material
>>>>>>>>>>> above.
>>>>>>>>>>> IV. Use above as a starting point to begin translation.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>>>>> The above does not work for pages such as  
>>>>>>>>>>> 'Category:vanilla'.
>>>>>>>>>>> I don't quite understand how that content is embedded in the
>>>>>>>>>>> page.
>>>>>>>>>>> Can some one help me on importing the list of objects?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I've noticed that people working on the Spanish and  
>>>>>>>>>>> Portuguese
>>>>>>>>>>> pages
>>>>>>>>>>> have been successful in this.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Once that translated template that you posted is ready to  
>>>>>>>>>> go, then
>>>>>>>>>> I'll
>>>>>>>>>> run the import.  That will generate template pages for  
>>>>>>>>>> about 2000
>>>>>>>>>> objectclasses.  Then it's a matter of plugging in content,  
>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>> can be
>>>>>>>>>> gathered from pages in other languages, help patches, etc.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> .hc
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>>>>> David Shimamoto
>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>> chapter is not torn out of the book, but translated into a better
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