[PD] file system for pd
Timmy
tim at dirtyhandbag.com
Wed Dec 19 22:34:46 CET 2007
hey guys,
thanks for the help.. greatly appreciated ! :)
timmy xx
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> 1. file system for pd (Timmy)
> 2. OT: Processing Book (Mike McGonagle)
> 3. Re: What exactly is a "stack overflow" ? (Frank Barknecht)
> 4. Re: file system for pd (Frank Barknecht)
> 5. Re: What exactly is a "stack overflow" ? (Charles Henry)
> 6. Re: file system for pd (marius schebella)
> 7. Re: pdpedia Images (Georg Werner)
> 8. Re: What exactly is a "stack overflow" ? (Charles Henry)
> 9. Fwd: What exactly is a "stack overflow" ? (Mike McGonagle)
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> Subject:
> [PD] file system for pd
> From:
> Timmy <tim at dirtyhandbag.com>
> Date:
> Wed, 19 Dec 2007 19:19:44 +0000
> To:
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>
> hi everyone,
>
> is there a similar object to the coll object in pd ?
> im trying to save preferences for a patch.. is this possible ??
>
> also does anyone know of a way to have a specified folder
> preselected in the "openpanel" object.. at the moment it
> always opens in the same dir as the saved pd file.. id like
> to create browsable folders/filesystem for selecting files
> whilst performing..
>
> any ideas would be great.. ta!
>
> tim
>
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> Subject:
> [PD] OT: Processing Book
> From:
> "Mike McGonagle" <mjmogo at gmail.com>
> Date:
> Wed, 19 Dec 2007 13:52:51 -0600
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> http://www.processing.org/learning/books/
>
> While this is not specific to Pure Data, it does contain a section on
> working with Wiring and Arduino devices.
>
> Just thought others might find this interesting...
>
>
> Mike
>
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> Subject:
> Re: [PD] What exactly is a "stack overflow" ?
> From:
> Frank Barknecht <fbar at footils.org>
> Date:
> Wed, 19 Dec 2007 21:40:11 +0100
> To:
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>
> Hallo,
> Andy Farnell hat gesagt: // Andy Farnell wrote:
>
>
>> On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 01:17:33 +0900
>> "hard off" <hard.off at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> but yeah. i agree.
>>>
>>> [bang(
>>> |
>>> [until]
>>>
>>> is a great name for a death metal band!
>>>
>> LOL! Yeah.
>>
>
> Yeah, really cool. Lets make that the t-shirt for pd~conv 2009!
>
>
>> Anyway, in accordance with what you said bang-until is the one that
>> is in the 0.1% of "worth thinking about safety" issues, precisely
>> because it does not cause a stack overflow.
>>
>
> I think, that now, that the "negative numbers" bug of [until] where
> negative numbers acted like a bang, is fixed in the next Pd, maybe we
> should tell beginners that they can send a number into Pd when they
> are unsure if their patch is stopping [until] correctly. Maybe we
> should even *preach* to send numbers instead of a bang into [until] in
> general? If you use a large enough number, it's "almost the same" as a
> bang except that it will stop by itself at some point.
>
> Ciao
>
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> Subject:
> Re: [PD] file system for pd
> From:
> Frank Barknecht <fbar at footils.org>
> Date:
> Wed, 19 Dec 2007 21:46:24 +0100
> To:
> pd-list at iem.at
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> To:
> pd-list at iem.at
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>
> Hallo,
> Timmy hat gesagt: // Timmy wrote:
>
>
>> is there a similar object to the coll object in pd ?
>>
>
> [textfile] is the most similar object to coll in Pd. If you also
> include externals, then you could also look into pool, msgfile, pbank
> or of course the Lua loader.
>
>
>> im trying to save preferences for a patch.. is this possible ??
>>
>
> [sssad] can be used for this, where to save to is yur choice -
> textfile, msg, pool, coll, all work. Memento is another system for
> state saving, which requires [pool] and [OSCroute].
>
>
>> also does anyone know of a way to have a specified folder
>> preselected in the "openpanel" object.. at the moment it
>> always opens in the same dir as the saved pd file.. id like
>> to create browsable folders/filesystem for selecting files
>> whilst performing..
>>
>
> Send a "symbol /my/path" to [openpanel] instead of a bang. You may be
> interested in reading the help-file for openpanel. ;)
>
> Ciao
>
>
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> Subject:
> Re: [PD] What exactly is a "stack overflow" ?
> From:
> "Charles Henry" <czhenry at gmail.com>
> Date:
> Wed, 19 Dec 2007 14:57:12 -0600
> To:
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>
> On 12/19/07, Frank Barknecht <fbar at footils.org> wrote:
>
>> I think, that now, that the "negative numbers" bug of [until] where
>> negative numbers acted like a bang, is fixed in the next Pd, maybe we
>> should tell beginners that they can send a number into Pd when they
>> are unsure if their patch is stopping [until] correctly. Maybe we
>> should even *preach* to send numbers instead of a bang into [until] in
>> general? If you use a large enough number, it's "almost the same" as a
>> bang except that it will stop by itself at some point.
>>
>
> I seem to be tuning in a little late, in this discussion, but if it's
> a bad problem, couldn't you change the method of until to use only
> floats?
>
>
>> Ciao
>> --
>> Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org__
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> Subject:
> Re: [PD] file system for pd
> From:
> marius schebella <marius.schebella at gmail.com>
> Date:
> Wed, 19 Dec 2007 16:08:06 -0500
> To:
> Timmy <tim at dirtyhandbag.com>
>
> To:
> Timmy <tim at dirtyhandbag.com>
> CC:
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>
> there is a coll object in the cyclone external library.
> marius.
>
> Timmy wrote:
>> hi everyone,
>>
>> is there a similar object to the coll object in pd ?
>> im trying to save preferences for a patch.. is this possible ??
>>
>> also does anyone know of a way to have a specified folder
>> preselected in the "openpanel" object.. at the moment it
>> always opens in the same dir as the saved pd file.. id like
>> to create browsable folders/filesystem for selecting files
>> whilst performing..
>>
>> any ideas would be great.. ta!
>>
>> tim
>>
>> --
>> trws logo
>> therhomworkshop.unit 60.spike island.133 cumberland road.bristol BS1 6UX
>> t.+44(0)1179 221 558 m.+44(0)7971 007 707 e.mrtim at therhomworkshop.com
>> www.therhomworkshop.com
>>
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> Subject:
> Re: [PD] pdpedia Images
> From:
> Georg Werner <georg at fricklr.de>
> Date:
> Wed, 19 Dec 2007 22:18:34 +0100
> To:
> marius schebella <marius.schebella at gmail.com>
>
> To:
> marius schebella <marius.schebella at gmail.com>
> CC:
> pd-list at iem.at
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>
> hi,
> i uploaded it to the mediapool:
> https://wiki.puredata.info/mediapool/Special:Imagelist
> the name is "makenote.png", no tilde etc. (for tilde one could use -
> instead [inside of filenames]?)
> with "makefile.png / en" i meant:
> https://wiki.puredata.info/en/makenote
> georg
>
>
> marius schebella:
>> hi,
>> I'm not seeing your file. did you upload it to the mediapool? I know
>> that there are problems with special characters. for example tilde
>> (~) is afaik not working. (so that would be great to fix, seems to be
>> a major wiki issue). but besides that image upload should work.
>> the image upload for the individual languages is turned off, to make
>> all images accessible in all languages. maybe that is what you mean
>> with makefile.png / en?
>> marius.
>>
>>
>> Georg Werner wrote:
>>> hi,
>>>
>>> i'm wondering why the image-upload in pdpedia isn't working. if the
>>> description consists of the comments in the help-patches anyway,
>>> screenshots would be much more readable. I uploaded one file, but
>>> couldn't get it to be displayed (makefile.png / en). Is there
>>> anything i
>>> could help with (perl/php etc.)?
>>>
>>> georg
>>>
>>>
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> Subject:
> Re: [PD] What exactly is a "stack overflow" ?
> From:
> "Charles Henry" <czhenry at gmail.com>
> Date:
> Wed, 19 Dec 2007 15:23:17 -0600
> To:
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> On 12/19/07, Charles Henry <czhenry at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I seem to be tuning in a little late, in this discussion, but if it's
>> a bad problem, couldn't you change the method of until to use only
>> floats?
>>
>
> oh, wait, now I get it. You should send a message back to until to
> stop the loop at some point--that's why it loops until some condition
> is met.
>
>
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> Subject:
> [PD] Fwd: What exactly is a "stack overflow" ?
> From:
> "Mike McGonagle" <mjmogo at gmail.com>
> Date:
> Wed, 19 Dec 2007 15:26:13 -0600
> To:
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> To:
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>
> On Dec 19, 2007 2:57 PM, Charles Henry < czhenry at gmail.com
> <mailto:czhenry at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>
> I seem to be tuning in a little late, in this discussion, but if it's
> a bad problem, couldn't you change the method of until to use only
> floats?
>
>
> But this is the whole point of discussions like this. It is NOT to fix
> a FEATURE of PD, but to give warnings as what NOT to do to shoot
> yourself in the foot.
>
> If you know NOT to connect up a [bang( -> [until] without some sort of
> termination means, then you won't do it... Or if you really need to
> experience it first hand, then by all means do it. You probably will
> never do it again...
>
> Besides, this object is so old that to make a change like this would
> probably break a large portion of PD patches that use [until].
>
> Mike
>
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