[PD] [OT] slightly: building audio computer with PD

Derek Holzer derek at umatic.nl
Wed Jan 2 21:06:28 CET 2008


The whole idea of read-only is for two reasons:

1) To protect the HD in case of unexpected shutdowns (which could happen 
nightly in a typical museum situation)
2) To preserve the CF memory, which has a limited number of write 
cycles, in the case of a HD-less system

If the computer needs to be networked, then you might be moving away 
from the situation I have in mind, mainly an audio/video system in a 
gallery or museum. Another situation for this would be a "headless" 
computer for live stage performance, where you would often be powering 
it up and down like any other effects unit or sound module. (Unless 
you're one of those weirdos that likes typing on the laptop in front of 
crowds...)

In case of a networked installation, you'd probably want to set it up 
more like a "normal" server and put it someplace where you know it won't 
get zapped. But imagine, you don't *have* to connect to the internet to 
use a computer... ;-)

d.

errordeveloper at gmail.com wrote:
> hm ..
> how about locks and other stuff ?
> there always some things which want to be written to somewhere in /var!
> the gentoo runscripts use /var/lib/init.d/
> i reckon having a bit of space writable in /var and /tmp symlinked to
> /var ..could be usefull, keep one or two day's logs as well and log them
> on a loghost or mail before they being wiped off..
> you can mail without a server .. might be able to use mutt or some
> command line util to do it via smtp ..
> well, this deppends on the network availability!
> 
> On Tue, Jan 01, 2008 at 10:49:14PM +0100, Derek Holzer wrote:
>> Can't use logrotate if the partition is mounted readonly. I can see the 
>> point if the idea wasn't to fill up disk space, but my whole idea is to 
>> not write to the disk at all. Symlink is also a good idea, though.
>>
>> best,
>> d.
>>
>> Andy Farnell wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 21:57:18 +0100
>>> plessas at mur.at (Peter Plessas) wrote:
>>>
>>>> * Derek Holzer <derek at umatic.nl> [2007-12-31 18:47]:
>>>>> So I made sure to mount all my drives read-only, and that everything 
>>>>> would start from a script on power-up. Having the whole operating system 
>>>>> on a Flash card/USB stick (again, no logging, read-only) is also quite 
>>>> How do you do that? Do you mount /var/log as ramdisk which gets erased
>>>> at reboot, or do you tell every service/daemon not to log?
>>> Symlink logs to /dev/null or use logrotate to delete them on the hour.
>>> Better if you can tell a process not to log though, stop the problem at
>>> its source.
>>>
>>>> thanks, PP
>>>>
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