[PD] about fiddle~

[Jamie Bullock]

This one's pretty helpful too:

@misc{ puckette98realtime,
  author = "M. Puckette and T. Apel and D. Zicarelli",
  title = "Real-time audio analysis tools for Pd and MSP",
  text = "Puckette, M. S., T. Apel, and D. D. Zicarelli. 1998. Real-time audio analysis
    tools for Pd and MSP. Proceedings of the International Computer Music Conference.
    ??-?.",
  year = "1998",
  url = "citeseer.ist.psu.edu/puckette98realtime.html" }

Jamie

On Thu, 2008-01-17 at 08:19 -0800, Miller Puckette wrote:
> I don't know if this helps, but I wrote a paper, "score following using the
> sung voice" that has some info on that:
> 
> http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/Publications//icmc95.ps
> 
> cheers
> Miller
> 
> On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 04:06:59PM +0100, matteo sisti sette wrote:
> > First of all thanks to everybody for the clarifications and
> > suggestions I received.
> > 
> > 
> > 2008/1/11, Miller Puckette <mpuckett at imusic1.ucsd.edu>:
> > 
> > > I don't know any canonical way to decide when a note is finished, except
> > > to notice that a new note has started.
> > 
> > That's very interesting: it reveals to me how wrong my way of
> > conceiving the whole thing from the beginning is.
> > 
> > I still can't understand too well how it works. I mean, apart from
> > what I was trying to do and no matter whether fiddle is or isn't
> > possibly useful for doing that, I am now simply trying to understand
> > just how fiddle works.
> > 
> > My idea of "understanding" is being able to predict the expected (or
> > ideal) behaviour of fiddle in response to a given input.
> > 
> > For example, how should I expect it to behave if I send it a phasor
> > (to say a non-sinusoidal but clean-pitched sound) with a pitch that
> > increases slowly but steadily up to several semitones or even octaves?
> > What if the same increase in pitch is much faster? How do the
> > "vibrato" parameters influence?
> > Another example: what about re-attacks? When should I expect a
> > repetition of the same note to appear as a repeated pitch on the
> > cooked-pitch (first) outlet, and when should I instead expect only a
> > bang in the attack outlet?
> > 
> > Is all this kind of things explained in detail somewhere?
> > Maybe all or part of this is not specifical to Fiddle but generar
> > pitchtracking theory stuff?
> > 
> > Or do I have to look at the source code? :scared:
> > 
> > I did try to play with it and observe in order to find some answers,
> > but I'm too lost to be able to draw conclusions from tests (too many
> > mutually interfering questions).
> > 
> > 
> > By the way, I had a look at the examples mentioned by Hans Roels (I
> > only found example patches, no plain explanations) but I'm afraid my
> > uncertainties are at a deeper level.
> > 
> > Thanks again
> > m.
> > 
> > -- 
> > Matteo Sisti Sette
> > matteosistisette at gmail.com
> > http://www.matteosistisette.com
> > 
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