[PD] fs1r & pd sysex

Sat Jan 26 19:49:42 CET 2008

* Timmy <tim at dirtyhandbag.com> [2008-01-26 13:05]:
> random question,
> 
> just a thought, but do any of you think it would be possible to
> build a sysex editor for something like a fs1r with pd ?
> 
> i have some software that i can edit it with, but i cant edit
> it and play sequences with it at the same time.. its like the
> editor has complete control over the midi port and wont
> let it up to any other midi sequencer/program, i've tried using
> a midi yoke, but that doesn't work either... sorry for the kind
> of indirect pd question, i just wondered if i went about investing
> some time into building something with pd i could still use
> external software to record and playback sequences..

Dear Tim,

random answer,

it is definitely possible to build a sysex editor in pd. The more
tricky part, especially for a newcomer is the handling
(storage/retrieval) of the many different data values in pd. Not that it
is not possible, but better have your homework made before that :-)
If you want to start working with pd, that would make a good project to
do so. But if you want to have a quick and working solution, i would try
other things, as for example a multiport midi interface, or midi mergers
or other software loopback solutions.

regards, PP

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> >   2. Re: visca camera control in pd? (B. Bogart)
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> >Subject:
> >Re: [PD] How to cite PD in an academic paper?
> >From:
> >Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at eds.org>
> >Date:
> >Fri, 25 Jan 2008 17:08:33 -0500
> >To:
> >Andy Farnell <padawan12 at obiwannabe.co.uk>
> >
> >To:
> >Andy Farnell <padawan12 at obiwannabe.co.uk>
> >CC:
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> >
> >I generally use what I think the reader would be most interested in.  
> >If there is something in the icmc96.ps paper that is related, I would 
> >include that, otherwise, I use a misc entry with the 
> >http://puredata.info URL.
> >
> >.hc
> >
> >On Jan 24, 2008, at 7:26 PM, Andy Farnell wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>Use the @MISC bibtex entry
> >>author: Puckette et al
> >>date: 1996
> >>
> >>or you may prefer to cite this as a pointer
> >>
> >>http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/Publications/icmc96.ps
> >>
> >>See for constructing MISC bibtex fields
> >>
> >>http://www.ecst.csuchico.edu/~jacobsd/bib/formats/bibtex.html
> >>
> >>
> >>On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 15:43:43 -0800
> >>"B. Bogart" <ben at ekran.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>>Hey all,
> >>>
> >>>Is there a specific way to cite Pure-Data in an academic paper? R
> >>>outputs a bibtex entry when you call cite(). Is there some standard 
> >>>for PD?
> >>>
> >>>OT: How is software generally cited?
> >>>
> >>>Thanks,
> >>>.b.
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> >Subject:
> >Re: [PD] visca camera control in pd?
> >From:
> >"B. Bogart" <ben at ekran.org>
> >Date:
> >Fri, 25 Jan 2008 14:07:20 -0800
> >To:
> >chris clepper <cgclepper at gmail.com>
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> >To:
> >chris clepper <cgclepper at gmail.com>
> >CC:
> >pd-list at iem.at, Martin Peach <martin.peach at sympatico.ca>
> >
> >
> >The elmo just says "Ack, ERR or Complete" but since multiple cameras can
> >be diasychained then it gets more complex, which camera threw which error.
> >
> >Another thing to look into is the pan/tilt heads, I was looking at these
> >as they are much more flexible, you can put any camera on em, but I did
> >not look very far. (zoom is obviously trouble)
> >
> >have fun!
> >
> >.b.
> >
> >chris clepper wrote:
> >  
> >>On Jan 25, 2008 12:00 PM, Martin Peach <martin.peach at sympatico.ca
> >><mailto:martin.peach at sympatico.ca>> wrote:
> >>
> >>    <http://bssc.sel.sony.com/BroadcastandBusiness/docs/manuals/evihd1_tm.pdf>I've
> >>    worked with a VISCA cam a few years ago. It just uses 9600 baud RS232
> >>    serial, so [comport] can handle it. The harder part is parsing 
> >>    incoming
> >>    messages.
> >>
> >>
> >>Good to know it is possible.  What incoming messages need to be
> >>handled?   I was thinking that Pd would just send messages to move the
> >>cam around and not really need to know if the they are successful or not. 
> >>
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> >Subject:
> >Re: [PD] Mac OS X Intel autobuilds
> >From:
> >brandon zeeb <bsoisoi at mac.com>
> >Date:
> >Fri, 25 Jan 2008 23:05:36 -0500
> >To:
> >Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at eds.org>
> >
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> >Awesome, thanks for the info.  I'll take a look at it this weekend.  
> >Should I forward any subsequent issues on this topic (ie: Pd on 10.5 
> >and universal binaries) to the pd-dev list, or this one?
> >
> >I'll let you all know when I have the builds going.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >~Brandon
> >
> >
> >On Jan 25, 2008, at 5:05 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>Cool.  It's not too hard to setup, here's how.  First use rsync to 
> >>get the code:
> >>
> >>http://puredata.info/docs/developer/GettingPdSource
> >>
> >>Then install all the dependencies:
> >>
> >>http://puredata.info/docs/developer/darwin
> >>
> >>Then add the script to a cron job so it runs automatically:
> >>
> >>pure-data/scripts/auto-build/pd-extended-auto-builder.sh
> >>
> >>Universal builds for Pd-extended won't work, but it wouldn't be too 
> >>hard to get working, and very much a worthwhile project.
> >>
> >>.hc
> >>
> >>On Jan 25, 2008, at 2:11 PM, bsoisoi wrote:
> >>
> >>>I have a 1.5ghz powerbook G4 with 2gb of RAM that is acting as a 
> >>>server for me right now.  It is running 10.5.1, and I'm pretty sure 
> >>>powerpc macs can build Universal Binary / Intel binaries.
> >>>
> >>>If someone can figure that out (or help me figure it out) I can 
> >>>donate dedicated CPU time on this machine for nightly Pd-extended 
> >>>PPC/Intel autobuilds.
> >>>
> >>>Let me know,
> >>>~Brandon
> >>>
> >>>On Jan 23, 2008, at 1:31 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>I don't think anyone has done a 10.5 build or a universal build yet.
> >>>>If someone wants to tackle that, then we can just have universal
> >>>>builds every night on whatever machine AFAIK.
> >>>>
> >>>>.hc
> >>>>
> >>>>On Jan 20, 2008, at 11:28 PM, vade wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>What machine is it hans/marius? Perhaps we can set aside an intel box
> >>>>>for um, us researchers and we can leave it on :) Since I am probably
> >>>>>around more than Hans is I can check on it periodically.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I believe PPC systems can compile intel builds, with 10.5, no (im not
> >>>>>positive but I think you can target them??)? If so, we may have a
> >>>>>spare machine for this at Poly we can put in the research area 
> >>>>>that no
> >>>>>one will mess with...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>On Jan 20, 2008, at 10:20 PM, marius schebella wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>jan 17 has one.
> >>>>>>the reason why the machine is down isvery trivial. the autobuild
> >>>>>>process
> >>>>>>was set up on a school machine which is in daily use by students and
> >>>>>>good students turn off the machine during night. Afaik the machines
> >>>>>>got
> >>>>>>totally reset for the beginning of the new semester (starting with
> >>>>>>jan22). don't know if it will be up again. hans?
> >>>>>>marius.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>bsoisoi wrote:
> >>>>>>>Hello everyone,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Is there a reason there hasn't been an autobuild for Mac OS X x86
> >>>>>>>since around 2007-12-07?  Do we know when we can expect the Intel
> >>>>>>>builds to resume?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Thanks,
> >>>>>>>~Brandon
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> >Subject:
> >[PD] paranoid pd
> >From:
> >naysayer <gateswideopen at gmail.com>
> >Date:
> >Sat, 26 Jan 2008 19:42:58 +1100
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> >could someone tell me how i can turn off this paranoid setting in pd
> >that asks me every time if i'm sure i want to close the patch window.
> >it seems a little crazy that this happens regardless of whether i have
> >saved the patch or not.
> >
> >i hope i'm not being intolerant.
> >
> >thanks.
> >
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> >Subject:
> >Re: [PD] paranoid pd
> >From:
> >Derek Holzer <derek at umatic.nl>
> >Date:
> >Sat, 26 Jan 2008 11:00:44 +0100
> >To:
> >naysayer <gateswideopen at gmail.com>
> >
> >To:
> >naysayer <gateswideopen at gmail.com>
> >CC:
> >"Pd-List \(E-mail\)" <pd-list at iem.at>
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> >
> >CTL + W is very close to CTL + E, so I for one am glad it's there.
> >
> >d.
> >
> >naysayer wrote:
> >>could someone tell me how i can turn off this paranoid setting in pd
> >>that asks me every time if i'm sure i want to close the patch window.
> >>it seems a little crazy that this happens regardless of whether i have
> >>saved the patch or not.
> >
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