[PD] Pd sounds better than Max?

Brandon Zeeb bsoisoi at mac.com
Sun Mar 9 20:41:54 CET 2008


Why can't we simply have the option to turn up (or turn down!) the  
resolution of the objects we already have?  This is considerably less  
complex.
~Brandon


On Mar 9, 2008, at 2:08 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

>
> It could be, it's just a matter of someone writing the code :)   
> That's why I proposed the 'cleansound' library.
>
> .hc
>
> On Mar 9, 2008, at 2:01 PM, bsoisoi wrote:
>
>> Well, why couldn't Pd be as "clean", processors are fast enough these
>> days, and one could always crank up the sample rates of their DSP
>> blocks.  Isn't the internal resolution at least 32bit anyway (is it
>> 64bit under any circumstances?)
>>
>> cheers,
>> ~brandon
>>
>>
>> On Mar 8, 2008, at 4:25 PM, Andy Farnell wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 16:08:45 -0500
>>> marius schebella <marius.schebella at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Frank Barknecht wrote:
>>>>> Hallo,
>>>>> Andy Farnell hat gesagt: // Andy Farnell wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Both use the same patch (the undulating diffraction effect). It's
>>>>>> comparable because I translated the Csound version directly to
>>>>>> Pd, both
>>>>>> are 64 oscillator banks and it's clear that the Csound one
>>>>>> sparkles while
>>>>>> the Pd one sounds a bit muddy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Csound also is known as "CleanSound" in some circles.
>>>>
>>>> so why is then "pure" data not equally clean?
>>>> marius.
>>>
>>>
>>> Because it's optimised for real-time performance.
>>>
>>> Max/Pd strike a careful balance between for real-time capability.
>>> The amazing sound quality of Csound comes about because it was
>>> designed
>>> for offline rendering, and it got realtime by dint of increased CPU
>>> speeds.
>>>
>>> Like the difference between a 3D games engine and rendering a
>>> raytracing
>>> scene in 3DMax.
>>>
>>> In a way, it's not really a fair comparison at all, or at least we
>>> could
>>> say "what did you expect?!"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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