[PD] [PD-announce] cheap AVR/HID sensor board

Rua Haszard Morris ruahm at yahoo.com
Thu Mar 27 02:23:05 CET 2008


[Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm not too sure about this but] I think the USB-HID device is a lot faster/more responsive than the USB-serial interface used on Arduino. The advantage I see is that it's cheap, easy to build/understand, relatively responsive, and the you don't have to write or get a driver as it's a class compliant USB-joystick (i.e. semi-reliable folks like MS, Apple, linux do that for you). Though you do need to be able to interface with a joystick at software, but PD can do that with [hid] (?), and I believe there are other software utils to convert joystick motion to MIDI (aseqjoy ?).

That's my limited understanding.. I haven't built mine yet :)

have fun
Rua HM.
 
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----- Original Message ----
From: Derek Holzer <derek at umatic.nl>
To: Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at eds.org>
Cc: pd-list at iem.at
Sent: Thursday, 27 March, 2008 2:04:11 PM
Subject: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] cheap AVR/HID sensor board

I think Martin made this because he thought the Arduino was a bit 
overkill. It does seem a bit funny to convert a EUR 30 board into 
something that a EUR 5 board can do ;-)

The circuit diagram is pretty simple, if you can't etch it I think you 
could still build it in an afternoon.

d.

Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
> 
> Do you know, is the wiring much different than the Arduino?  Perhaps I 
> could just wire a USB plug to the right pins.  The problem, I guess is 
> that the Arduino is 16MHz and this board is 12MHz.
> 
> It would be nice to have a little homebrew recipe for turning the 
> Arduino into the AVR/HID.
> 
> .hc
> 
> On Mar 26, 2008, at 6:38 PM, Derek Holzer wrote:
>> No output programmed yet, just HID input. I suppose it could be done. 
>> Does the [hid] object support output (such as force feedback)?
>>
>> I guess you could ask Martin to make you one, might cost more than EUR 
>> 5 with the shipping. But mainly it's a DIY project. Unless you happen 
>> to come to one of our workshops in Berlin ;-)
>>
>> d.
>>
>> Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>>> Looks nice.  Is anyone selling completed boards?  Can they do output  
>>> too?
>>> .hc
>>> On Mar 26, 2008, at 4:18 PM, Derek Holzer wrote:
>>>> Martin Howse just posted his documentation of a simple HID sensor  
>>>> board,
>>>> costing approx EUR 5 to make, which can be used over USB with PD,
>>>> SuperCollider, etc.
>>>>
>>>> http://1010.co.uk/avrhid.html
>>>>
>>>> This board was used during a sensor workshop which took place at  
>>>> Pickled
>>>> Feet in Berlin on 15 March 2008, with the second part taking place  
>>>> on 26
>>>> April 2008. Details here:
>>>>
>>>> http://1010.co.uk/workshop.html
>>>>
>>>> Further docs could include step-by-step programming instructions,  
>>>> sensor
>>>> connection schematics and sample PD patches.
>>>>
>>>> Feedback more than welcome!
>>>>
>>>> best,
>>>> d.
>>>>
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