[PD] externals/loaders build system WAS: place for loaders

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

Hey,

It would be awesome if you took this on as a project!  We've talked a  
lot about this and I think the following is a good solution:

- common externals/configure.in
- each project has its own Makefile.am
- optionally, each project can have its own configure.in
- the common ./configure will allow things like:
      ./configure --disable-all --enable-zexy --enable-maxlib
      ./configure --disable-cxc

The big disadvantage of having totally self-sufficient build systems  
for subsection could be that each dev has to maintain the build  
system to work on all platforms.  There could be a way around that,  
that would be the ideal.  Then all of the cross-platform build issues  
are handled in one place, and a dev only needs to build on their  
platform to know that things will build on others (for the most  
part).  This part has been working pretty well with the current build  
system.

I think that we should:
- use automake and autoconf for the common system.
- replace the old makefiles with this system, with the consent of  
each dev

Here is some useful info on this topic:
http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-dev/2007-11/010265.html
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/autoconf/2008-03/msg00060.html
http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-dev/2006-12/008114.html

.hc

On Mar 28, 2008, at 1:13 PM, errordeveloper at gmail.com wrote:
> hi Marius and everybdy,
>
> i'm not quite sure what are they?
>
> but i reckon the organization of makefiles in the svn is too messy,
> i was considering an option of actually offering myself taking the
> responsibility for that!
> but while considering that, i was tald that the concept is that each
> subdir is maintained exclusivle by the author ..which i actually
> respect, as it sort of right way for me, as it gives the individuality
> to the complite set of software - pd+etx+abs :)
>
> still may be we could introduce proper guidlines, especially what
> 'install' target has to do, the actuall directories where the lib it's
> helpfile and exples would be put!
> last time i tryed just simple make .pd_linux && make install - it did
> try to mess up my setup, so i had either both lib and helpfile in one
> place, or the lib in that place and the helpfile somewhere else ;(
> and i can remeber what else it done back then ..
> so i did just copy every usefull file into two dirs that i named  
> abs and ext,
> all helpfiles could go into subdirs of the two, but i did just out  
> then
> together. well.. i don't need much stuff of there, just most of the  
> time
> i've been happy with core objs ;[
>
> the self organised pojects, i mean those which take their own dir,  
> like
> the mtl bunch and netpd are totaly fine as they are ;)
>
> also some makefiles tend to have odd CFLAGS, many are missing -fPIC,
> which you need on x86_64, so right .. that all wanted to say about  
> that..
>
>
>
> also i will meantion here that there still a little annoying issue
> in Millers's src/ :(
> the makefile was fixed and the .pd file don't get +x permission when
> installed, but they together with some other .c files do have it in  
> the
> src dir, which is definetly the source of the prob ;(
> well.. i definetly suspect this is comes with cross platform
> development, when you use the msdos fs, and copy stuff onto and  
> from it,
> all the files on there when mounted on linux turn out to have +x  
> bit (by
> default).
> the fix for it is to put a line like this into fstab:
> /dev/sde1 /mnt/sd1        auto  
> user,group,noauto,rw,noatime,umask=027,fmask=0117,posix,gid=100 0 0
> this sets the file and dir mask, the important bits are umask=027  
> and fmask=0117
> the rest is site specific.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 10:57:44AM -0400, marius schebella wrote:
>> hi,
>> surfing the cvs I just wondered if "loaders" should be a subdir of
>> externals at all? I can't find a discussion about this in the  
>> archives
>> and I also think it is not that important. but shouldn't it go  
>> side by
>> side with the externals folder?
>> nevermind...
>> marius.
>>
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