[PD] http, html and textfiles

[mark edward grimm]

hey thanks on the tip, i will try that out...

> html know about fonts, 
> it's all pure ascii text.

oh yes i know this. i meant an optimized font for when
the text is in pd/gem window... i guess it wouldn't
really matter though as long as the loaded font wasn't
too complicated.

Thanks!
mark


--- Martin Peach <martin.peach at sympatico.ca> wrote:

> If you have pd extended you can use the
> mrpeach/tcpclient to retrieve the 
> page and the mrpeach/str object to snip the data on
> any character or 
> position. You have to enter things like spaces and
> backslashes as their 
> decimal equivalent though. An important pair is 10
> 13 for CR LF. It works 
> better if you are accessing simple web pages,
> especially if you are printing 
> out the characters as they arrive. Neither http or
> html know about fonts, 
> it's all pure ascii text.
> 
> Martin
> 
> 
> 
> >From: mark edward grimm <mgrimm at syr.edu>
> >Reply-To: mgrimm at syr.edu
> >To: Frank Barknecht <fbar at footils.org>,
> pd-list at iem.at
> >Subject: Re: [PD] http, html and textfiles
> >Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 06:34:18 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >hello,
> >
> >If we WERE going to use just pd for longer text
> type
> >processing, what optimization methods would be
> >recommended?
> >
> >Is there a particular font that PD handles better
> than
> >others?
> >Would it be wise to strip text of "backslashes,
> >spaces, commas...." as im assuming from your post?
> >Can PD grab a random 'line' from a text file so as
> not
> >to have to load the whole thing?
> >
> >Thanks
> >mark
> >
> >
> >--- Frank Barknecht <fbar at footils.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Hallo,
> > > wolfgang schwarzenbrunner hat gesagt: //
> wolfgang
> > > schwarzenbrunner wrote:
> > >
> > > > i am working on a little project in which
> websites
> > > are going to be
> > > > parsed. well. i thought this might be a nice
> thing
> > > using the regex
> > > > object from zexy... the only problem i am
> facing
> > > right now is that i
> > > > have no idea how i could get a html file on my
> > > harddisk using pd
> > > > (something like a http browsing object)...
> > > >
> > > > any suggestions?
> > >
> > > Yep: Don't use Pd for text processing.
> > >
> > > Pd is good at many things, but it's not good at
> > > parsing and modifying
> > > larger amounts of text. AFAIK there still is no
> > > garbage collection for
> > > unused symbols (Pd's "strings"), it's
> > > overcomplicated to deal with
> > > certain characters (backslashes, spaces, commas,
> > > ...) when they should
> > > not be interpreted by Pd etc.
> > >
> > > What I would recommend is to do your text
> processing
> > > in a different
> > > language. Many (scripting) languages that are
> great
> > > with text can be
> > > used inside of Pd: Lua, Python, Java, Scheme,
> etc.
> > > Most of these also
> > > include or can be extended easily with nice web
> > > browsing tools (CURL,
> > > Socket, system("wget") ...). In the end you can
> do
> > > both the browsing and
> > > all processing in one place and then only need
> to
> > > feed the results over
> > > to Pd in a format, Pd can handle with more
> elegance
> > > than it can handle
> > > large amounts of text.
> > >
> > > Of course it depends a bit on how complex your
> > > project is, so you may
> > > get away with pure Pd as well, but IMO it's a
> better
> > > use of Pd to
> > > externalize the text processing to a language
> better
> > > suited.
> > >
> > > Ciao
> > > --
> > > Frank Barknecht
> > >
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adjunct | new media consultant
megrimm.net | socialmediagroup.org & .com   
mgrimm at syr.edu | 315.378.2136
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