[PD] UI developer volunteering to help

Hans-Christoph Steiner hans at eds.org
Tue May 6 12:23:43 CEST 2008

On May 5, 2008, at 10:07 PM, Frank Barknecht wrote:

> Hallo,
> marius schebella hat gesagt: // marius schebella wrote:
>> what is so bad about, if you create [ADSR] that it comes as a nice
>> little control gui with all the knobs already included?
>> it is not true that words are "better" than images. and it is not  
>> true
>> that more information in a patch means "better".
>> I think you are right from the viewpoint of a programming user, but
>> users that just want higher level usuability want better graphics at
>> least the *possibility* to add graphical UI features. but this is  
>> quite
>> a lot of work...
> Most of my patches only use a handful of Pd core objects, like maybe
> (guessing) 50 builtins and some externals. However on my disk there
> are hundreds of abstractions, that I use. If I would need to think of
> and design icons for each of these, I would not use abstractions and I
> would feel severly limited in what I could express with Pd. Concrete
> example: What icons should I use for the ~60 abstractions in the
> list-abs collection? It's no problem to express their functionality
> using words, but icons would be horribly confusing. Oh, and yes: I'm a
> programming user here, but I believe most Pd users are programming
> users, and the others rely on the work of programming users.

Pd definitely needs text, text is a great, flexible symbol system for  
representing a massive array of words.  But I also think that some  
iconic objects would be nice, like jMax's trigger or Max/MSP's gate.


> Ciao
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>  Frank Barknecht                                     _  
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