[PD] Newbie request

Hugh Sung hughsung at gmail.com
Wed May 7 12:11:09 CEST 2008


In real time?  Can that be done?

On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 11:35 PM, Andy Farnell <padawan12 at obiwannabe.co.uk>
wrote:

>
>
> Write them to a text file then import them.
>
> On Tue, 6 May 2008 22:54:54 -0400
> "Hugh Sung" <hughsung at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > We're having a neat discussion about this in the Pure Data forum now:
> > http://puredata.hurleur.com/sujet-1686-fiddle-piano
> >
> > jon2211 came up with a neat patch that demonstrates how well fiddle~
> > recognizes notes played on a piano within a given range, triggering a
> key
> > text output.  Another poster showed an example of modifying that to
> trigger
> > with envelope/volume changes.  Of course, we're still stuck with how to
> port
> > the key stroke messages to an external application.
> >
> > Would someone be willing to write up a python script that can intercept
> Pure
> > Data text echoes and forward them to other concurrently running
> > applications, like PowerPoint or Word?  This is the missing link in the
> > puzzle - heck, i'd even be willing to pay someone if they could come up
> with
> > a useful workaround!
> >
> > Keeping my fingers crossed...
> > Many thanks as always!
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 6:11 AM, Olivier Heinry <olivier at heinry.fr>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Le Tue, 29 Apr 2008 18:50:33 -0400,
> > > "Hugh Sung" <hughsung at gmail.com> a écrit :
> > >
> > > Python might bring you the right solution:
> > >
> > > http://www.rutherfurd.net/python/sendkeys/
> > >
> > > You can either send your letters/keystrokes from inside pd using the
> pyext
> > > external that loads your python script
> > >
> > > or send messages via OSC to a python script that implements the ixi
> > > software simpleOSC lib
> > >
> > > http://www.ixi-software.net/content/backyard.html
> > >
> > > ++
> > > O.
> > >
> > >
> > > > Here's one scenario i'd like to see:
> > > >
> > > > 1.  Pedal assigned [PgDn] keystroke within Liquid Media, which
> triggers
> > > > scene change
> > > > 2.  PD outputs letters A-Z, depending on either volume or pitch
> > > frequency
> > > > ranges input from audio source (microphone into acoustic piano)
> > > > 3.  A given scene within Liquid Media would then interpret the
> > > PD-generated
> > > > keystrokes and trigger image events based on letter key "depressed"
> by
> > > PD.
> > > >
> > > > You'd have the ease of image generation (a la Powerpoint) with the
> speed
> > > and
> > > > power of PD to map the sound of acoustic music.  Just my newbie
> > > imagination
> > > > going here.
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 6:46 PM, Hugh Sung <hughsung at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > The pedals basically operate as programmable usb keyboard
> extensions,
> > > > > where you can custom assign any keystroke to any pedal (up to 12).
> > >  I'm
> > > > > hoping that by assigning a certain set of keys to the pedals and
> > > reserving
> > > > > the rest for PD to control that everything can simply work
> together,
> > > if PD
> > > > > can output keyboard letters/numbers.  Everything would run from
> the
> > > same
> > > > > computer.  Again, please forgive me if i sound completely ignorant
> > > regarding
> > > > > what's possible with PD...
> > > > > Many thanks again!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 6:13 PM, Andrew Turley <aturley at acm.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > The [fiddle~] and [bonk~] objects should let you capture all of
> the
> > > > > > information that you are looking for. As far as getting that
> > > > > > information from Pd to Liquid Media, that may be the tricky
> part.
> > > Your
> > > > > > current pedals are sending keystrokes straight to Liquid Media.
> Do
> > > you
> > > > > > know if there is a way to control Liquid Media via MIDI
> messages, or
> > > > > > some sort of message sent via a socket connection (maybe OSC)?
> If
> > > so,
> > > > > > then you might be able to use Pd to capture your pedal input and
> > > then
> > > > > > combine that with the information from [fiddle~] and/or [bonk~]
> to
> > > > > > send the appropriate information to Liquid Media. If the only
> way to
> > > > > > control Liquid Media is through keystrokes, then you might need
> to
> > > > > > write some software that intercepts the keystrokes from the
> pedals
> > > and
> > > > > > changes them depending on what is going on in Pd.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > andy
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 12:18 PM, Hugh Sung <hughsung at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > I'm using a presentation program called "Liquid Media", sort
> of
> > > like
> > > > > > > Powerpoint on steroids.  Up to this point i had been using
> > > multiple
> > > > > > foot
> > > > > > > pedals assigned to different keystrokes to trigger visual
> cues,
> > > like
> > > > > > video
> > > > > > > clips, animated GIFs and the like, during live classical music
> > > piano
> > > > > > > recitals.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'd like to incorporate the dynamic capabilities of realtime
> > > visual
> > > > > > sync,
> > > > > > > with the ability to easily "change the scene", as it were.
>  i'm
> > > hoping
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > > someone can help me come up with a combined solution where PD
> acts
> > > as
> > > > > > an
> > > > > > > audio trigger controller, triggering keystroke events based on
> > > pitch
> > > > > > ranges,
> > > > > > > dynamic peaks and rhythmic events, and Liquid Media accepts
> those
> > > > > > > PD-generated keystrokes to trigger correlating visual cues.
>  Each
> > > > > > scene
> > > > > > > would comprise of specific trigger-able events, and the foot
> > > switch
> > > > > > would
> > > > > > > allow for a manual "change of scene".  i'm hoping to
> accomplish
> > > two
> > > > > > things
> > > > > > > with this combined approach:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 1.  make it a little easier to incorporate visuals synced to
> audio
> > > > > > events
> > > > > > > 2.  allow for easy scene transitions, to better compliment the
> > > > > > "narrative"
> > > > > > > structure of classical compositions
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hope this makes sense...thanks all for your input so far! (and
> > > > > > patience!)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 2:45 PM, Dan Wilcox <
> danomatika at gmail.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > As for forwarding keypresses and mouse events to an
> application
> > > ...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I have done this in Windows to control FLStudio (aka
> > > FruityLoops) by
> > > > > > > sending menu events and keypresses through python windows
> > > scripting,
> > > > > > > pywinauto, and osc in python.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I have info and code on my website.  It should still work
> but
> > > it's a
> > > > > > bit
> > > > > > > old (2006) and I don't use Windows anymore.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Tue, 2008-04-29 at 13:05 -0400, marius schebella wrote:
> > > > > > > > fiddle~ comes with pd (look in the "extra" folder), there is
> a
> > > help
> > > > > > > > patch that will explain how it works.
> > > > > > > > hope this helps.
> > > > > > > > marius.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hugh Sung wrote:
> > > > > > > > > i'm not familiar with that program - can you provide a
> link to
> > > > > > fiddle~,
> > > > > > > > > or any other program that can easily do what i'm looking
> for
> > > with
> > > > > > all
> > > > > > > > > the various parameters?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Many thanks!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 12:50 PM, marius schebella
> > > > > > > > > <marius.schebella at gmail.com <mailto:
> marius.schebella at gmail.com
> > > >>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hugh Sung wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Actually, this isn't for speech recognition - i'm trying
> to
> > > come
> > > > > > > > > up with a simple way to use key triggers to activate
> visuals.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > For example: if the piano plays A440, i'm presuming PD can
> be
> > > > > > > > > configured to recognize that pitch with a microphone input
> and
> > > > > > > > > then echo out a text string - the letter "A", perhaps.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > in that case, you best use fiddle~. what's the other
> program?
> > > does
> > > > > > > > > it accept network communication? then you can send the
> letters
> > > > > > over
> > > > > > > > > tcp or udp connection (netsend).
> > > > > > > > > marius.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > Hugh Sung
> > > > > > > > > www.hughsung.com <http://www.hughsung.com>
> > > > > > > > > www.TabletPCMusician.com <http://www.TabletPCMusician.com>
> > > > > > > > > www.musicmeetstech.com <http://www.musicmeetstech.com>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
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