[PD] Darwiinmoteosc osx with gem

Sat May 10 11:44:52 CEST 2008

Yes,
I've tried this to great effect. I've got a patch written for osc in pd-extended 0.39 test 4.
What I think is useful, is that with the IR sensor bar, ontop of your mac, you can invoke gemmouse. Then all you need is a gun attachment for your wii and you can point and shoot!
Can you attach patches in this list? I'd be happy to share.

Simon Kilshaw
Lecturer in Music Technology
RWCMD

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Lua and PD (update) (Claude Heiland-Allen)
   2. Re: controlling gem camera with wiimote (Dafydd Hughes)
   3. Re: controlling gem camera with wiimote (IOhannes m zm?lnig)
   4. Re: Mailing-List header (IOhannes m zm?lnig)
   5. Re: 0.41-4 on osx (marius schebella)
   6. Re: 0.41-4 on osx (IOhannes m zm?lnig)
   7. Re: List header (Was: Re: [PD-announce] Proof Me! PD	FLOSS
      Manual) (marius schebella)
   8. Re: 0.41-4 on osx (marius schebella)
   9. Re: 0.41-4 on osx (IOhannes m zm?lnig)
  10. Re: List header (Was: Re: [PD-announce] Proof Me! PD	FLOSS
      Manual) (Frank Barknecht)
  11. improve find function (marius schebella)

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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 13:38:26 +0100
From: Claude Heiland-Allen <claudiusmaximus at goto10.org>
Subject: Re: [PD] Lua and PD (update)
To: Mike McGonagle <mjmogo at gmail.com>
Cc: pd_list <pd-list at iem.at>
Message-ID: <482445C2.6020100 at goto10.org>
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Claude Heiland-Allen wrote:
> Mike McGonagle wrote:
>> 2. Lua access to PD tables
> 
> Now implemented (lacking some things, like GUI refresh).

Now added: t:redraw(), see [ltabfill] example.

> Still lacking some niceness, should be able to do:
> 
> local t = pd.Table:new():sync("mytable")
> t[123] = 456
> local x = t[789]
> return #t
> 
> but that's not (currently) implemented.

And it looks like it won't be implemented for the foreseeable future:

"#t does not invoke the __len metamethod when t is a table."
See end of: http://lua-users.org/wiki/GeneralizedPairsAndIpairs

This means pd.Table will remain ugly, with :length() :set() :get(), at 
least until Lua 5.2 (maybe).

Mike McGonagle also wrote:
> I am running Mac OS X 10.4.9, but the real trouble is that I don't have a
> internet connection at home. It is more a matter of time, and yes, a little
> bit of apprehension in doing something more.

Ok, using the Makefile.static you should be able to download two tarballs:

https://devel.goto10.org/dl.php?repname=maximus&path=%2Fpdlua%2F&rev=0&isdir=1
http://www.lua.org/ftp/lua-5.1.3.tar.gz

Unpack pdlua.tar.gz, then put lua-5.1.3.tar.gz directly inside pdlua/

Then edit pdlua/Makefile.static to change the PLATFORM= line to macosx, 
and within pdlua/ run "make -f Makefile.static"

It should compile first Lua then pdlua, and then you can test it with 
"pd -path src/ -lib lua"

Hope this works, let me know if not.

Claude
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 08:45:59 -0400
From: "Dafydd Hughes" <dafydd61 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PD] controlling gem camera with wiimote
To: "Luigi Rensinghoff" <luigi.rensinghoff at freenet.de>
Cc: pd-list at iem.at
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Has anybody on OS X tried darwiinosc?

http://code.google.com/p/darwiinosc/

I've just installed it and it looks pretty good to me, although I
haven't actually tried to apply it to anything useful yet.

cheers
dafydd

On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 8:34 AM, Luigi Rensinghoff
<luigi.rensinghoff at freenet.de> wrote:
> Hi wiimote-experimantators....
> Looks like some more people experimenting with th wii on OS X, so we cold
> share some thoughts and experiences...
> For know i am using "Osculator" to send OSC Data to PD....because
> 1) It is possible to handle more than one wiimote
> 2) I was able to compile "wiimote" or "aka.wiiremote" on Intel-OS X Tiger,
> but when i create the aka.wiiremote object or load the help-patch i get that
> load_object: Symbol "setup_aka0x2ewiiremote" not found
>  aka.wiiremote 00-1e-35-03-8a-00
>
>
>  ---- i will search again vor Readmes describing the setup procedure...i
> guess something is wrong with the setup (unfortunately the original readme
> about the setup procedure from aka.wiiremote is not available on the net any
> more)
>   It took me a while to find out that without the IR-Sensor bar it is only
> possible to get TWO axis. as Roman stated before..
> I have attached two patches, one that i found here, and i adapted it to be
> used with OSCulator and one i was working yesterday (it shouldnt be to
> difficult to adapt it to change the camera-view)
> Still very chaotic - but maybe helpful
>
>
>
>
>
> So anyway, i would be interested to hear how it is processing and what your
> experiments wit the wii are up to..
>
> So one question: There were Threads about porting/adapting the
> wiimote-external to OSX, i think Hans was planning to do that....did you
> start already ?
> How is the current state ?
>
> BTW: i am getting error: pd_vmess: only 5 allowed, since a week or so ??
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Am 09.05.2008 um 11:33 schrieb Roman Haefeli:
>
> On Fri, 2008-05-09 at 17:49 +0900, hard off wrote:
>
> you will probably need a middleman program to take the wii data and
> convert it into OSC messages so PD can read it.
> just google " wii + OSC + your operating system" and you should find
> what you need.
> OSCulator (mac) is good.  and someone just said that 'glovepie' is
> good for windows.
>
> then just map the pitch, roll and yaw of the wii remote to the camera
> angle.
>
> you don't get angles directly, but the magnitude of X, Y and Z vectors
> (or more accurately: the accelerations). however, you can calculate
> pitch and roll from the wiimote data. since g (gravity) is parallel to
> the yaw rotation axis, you cannot track the yaw angle.
> the [wiimote-help] by mike wozniewski comes with an example about how to
> do that.
> roman
>
>
>
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 15:18:08 +0200
From: IOhannes m zm?lnig <zmoelnig at iem.at>
Subject: Re: [PD] controlling gem camera with wiimote
To: Luigi Rensinghoff <luigi.rensinghoff at freenet.de>
Cc: pd-list at iem.at
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Luigi Rensinghoff wrote:
> 
> Hi wiimote-experimantators....
> 
> Looks like some more people experimenting with th wii on OS X, so we
> cold share some thoughts and experiences...
> 
> For know i am using "Osculator" to send OSC Data to PD....because
> 
> 1) It is possible to handle more than one wiimote
> 
> 2) I was able to compile "wiimote" or "aka.wiiremote" on Intel-OS X

i was referring to the [wiimote] external by mike wozniewski (or rather
by somebody else who used mike's original code and did whatever to it)
this is _not_ the same as [aka.wiirememote]

> Tiger, but when i create the aka.wiiremote object or load the help-patch
> i get that
> 
> load_object: Symbol "setup_aka0x2ewiiremote" not found
>  aka.wiiremote 00-1e-35-03-8a-00

the object seems to be called "wiiremote" (accordind to the sources).
so you probably have to rename the aka.wiiremote.pd_darwin to
wiiremote.pd_darwin and create [wiiremote].

fmasdr
IOhannes

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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 15:25:28 +0200
From: IOhannes m zm?lnig <zmoelnig at iem.at>
Subject: Re: [PD] Mailing-List header
To: Steffen Juul <stffn at dibidut.dk>
Cc: pd-list at iem.at
Message-ID: <482450C8.60603 at iem.at>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Steffen Juul wrote:
> On 09/05/2008, at 11.27, Roman Haefeli wrote:
> 
>> changing the mail filters shouldn't be too hard ;-)
> 
> And why filter list-mail by subject? I might miss an obvious reason,  
> thats why i ask.

i assumed that many people have never ever looked at the mail-headers of
an email - apart from the obvious fields that are shown by default on
most mtas (subject:, from:, date:, ...) - and don't even know that they
could filter based on rfc2919

i might be wrong of course.

mgf,adsr
IOhannes

PS: probably most people don't do any filtering anyhow...

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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 10:10:52 -0400
From: marius schebella <marius.schebella at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PD] 0.41-4 on osx
To: IOhannes m zm?lnig <zmoelnig at iem.at>
Cc: "pd-list at iem.at" <pd-list at iem.at>
Message-ID: <48245B6C.9010903 at gmail.com>
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IOhannes m zm?lnig wrote:
> marius schebella wrote:
>> after installation I noticed that I never have used pd "raw" (outside of 
>> /Applications), and don't know how to start it.
> 
> you mean like:
> $ /Applications/Pd.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd
> or
> $ ../bin/pd

exactly. that brings up pd but with a wrong menubar, no submenus except 
file-new/open, and it is not possible to open files, nor create new 
patches. the menubar is also not called pd, but wish. and the tcl-tk 
icon is in the taskbar.
marius.

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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 16:13:30 +0200
From: IOhannes m zm?lnig <zmoelnig at iem.at>
Subject: Re: [PD] 0.41-4 on osx
To: marius schebella <marius.schebella at gmail.com>
Cc: "pd-list at iem.at" <pd-list at iem.at>
Message-ID: <48245C0A.6000209 at iem.at>
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marius schebella wrote:

> exactly. that brings up pd but with a wrong menubar, no submenus except
> file-new/open, and it is not possible to open files, nor create new
> patches. the menubar is also not called pd, but wish. and the tcl-tk
> icon is in the taskbar.

weird.
i also get the tcl-tk icon and "wish" as a name. i admit that i don't
care much.

however, i can use Pd just like i am used to use it.
(open patches, create new ones)

fg,asdr
IOhannes

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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 10:15:14 -0400
From: marius schebella <marius.schebella at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PD] List header (Was: Re: [PD-announce] Proof Me! PD
	FLOSS	Manual)
To: IOhannes m zm?lnig <zmoelnig at iem.at>
Cc: pd-list at iem.at
Message-ID: <48245C72.7090605 at gmail.com>
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IOhannes m zm?lnig wrote:
> Steffen Juul wrote:
>> On 07/05/2008, at 9.54, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
>>
>>> Derek Holzer wrote:
>>>> 4) Grammar/spelling, of course
>>> Miller refers to "Pd" rather than "PD", shouldn't this canonical form be
>>> used? (which reminds me, that even the header of this list says [PD] :-|)
>> Oh dear. Any chance of changing that (for all the iem-lists)? Please.
> 
> i could easily.
> but then i guess 500 people will start shouting at me, because their
> mail-filters won't work anymore :-)
> 
> 
> if nobody objects within the next week, i will change the subject-prefix
> from [PD] to [Pd] (and accordingly) on all Pd-related mailinglists.

I think mail filters are not case sensitive, at least thunderbird is 
not. I am more worried about spam filters of they are case sensitive, I 
had to train my mail programs (gmail [please don't shout at me...] and 
thunderbird), because some of the pd mails went to spam.
maybe you can send out a testmail with the new header and see if it 
comes through.
marius.

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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 10:16:18 -0400
From: marius schebella <marius.schebella at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PD] 0.41-4 on osx
To: IOhannes m zm?lnig <zmoelnig at iem.at>
Cc: "pd-list at iem.at" <pd-list at iem.at>
Message-ID: <48245CB2.9000102 at gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

IOhannes m zm?lnig wrote:
> marius schebella wrote:
> 
>> exactly. that brings up pd but with a wrong menubar, no submenus except
>> file-new/open, and it is not possible to open files, nor create new
>> patches. the menubar is also not called pd, but wish. and the tcl-tk
>> icon is in the taskbar.
> 
> weird.
> i also get the tcl-tk icon and "wish" as a name. i admit that i don't
> care much.
> 
> however, i can use Pd just like i am used to use it.
> (open patches, create new ones)
> 
> fg,asdr
> IOhannes
> 

well, I have to say that I did not make install. maybe that's the problem?
marius.

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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 16:30:43 +0200
From: IOhannes m zm?lnig <zmoelnig at iem.at>
Subject: Re: [PD] 0.41-4 on osx
To: marius schebella <marius.schebella at gmail.com>
Cc: "pd-list at iem.at" <pd-list at iem.at>
Message-ID: <48246013.4070809 at iem.at>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

marius schebella wrote:
> 
> well, I have to say that I did not make install. maybe that's the problem?
> marius.
> 

neither did i (i don't want to 'make install' everytime i try to find a
bug :-))

fgmadsr
IOhannes

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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 16:40:14 +0200
From: Frank Barknecht <fbar at footils.org>
Subject: Re: [PD] List header (Was: Re: [PD-announce] Proof Me! PD
	FLOSS	Manual)
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Hallo,
marius schebella hat gesagt: // marius schebella wrote:

> I am more worried about spam filters of they are case sensitive, I 
> had to train my mail programs (gmail [please don't shout at me...] and 
> thunderbird), because some of the pd mails went to spam.
> maybe you can send out a testmail with the new header and see if it 
> comes through.

I hope, you don't have "Pd" and "pd" as well as "PD" and maybe "pD" in
your blacklist. ;)

Ciao
-- 
Frank

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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 11:54:16 -0400
From: marius schebella <marius.schebella at gmail.com>
Subject: [PD] improve find function
To: "pd-list at iem.at" <pd-list at iem.at>
Message-ID: <482473A8.1080206 at gmail.com>
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hi,
I wonder if it would be possible to improve the find function in pd.
first thing, the popup window should automatically get the focus in the 
search field.
secondly, be able to search "in this patch" or "in all patches" and 
"include sub patches".
also be able to search for arguments, which is necessary for finding 
correlating sends and receives.
marius.

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