[PD] UI developer volunteering to help

[David Golightly]

As requested, I've put back the "Edit" and "Delete" buttons and added
BackSpace as a Delete event for Mac OS X.  I couldn't get Cmd-BackSpace to
fire effectively, but perhaps someone knows something I don't about getting
that to work.


On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 7:15 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at eds.org>
wrote:

>
> Very nice!  The mouse/keyboard interactive is well done, I only worry that
> the buttons are now too sparse.  I think delete and edit buttons would still
> be useful, maybe people don't use keyboard shortcuts at all.
>
> Also, on Mac OS X, Delete is not commonly used, so it would be good to also
> have BackSpace work for deleting.  Or maybe Cmd-BackSpace since that is what
> is used for deleting in the Finder.
>
>
> .hc
>
> On May 18, 2008, at 9:46 AM, David Golightly wrote:
>
> A note on the latest changes: I removed all the list manipulation buttons
> and added the following bindings:
>
> - The list items can be re-ordered by drag-and-drop.
> - Clicking on a list item allows you to edit it.
> - Clicking anywhere else in the listbox allows you to add a new list item.
> - You can also traverse the list using up and down arrow keys, then press
> "Enter" to change the selected item.
> - Press "Delete" to delete the currently selected list item.
>
> I kept around the "New..." button, since it may not be immediately obvious
> to newbies how to add new things to the list.
>
> I also removed the "Save all settings" button and folded its action in to
> the "Apply" command (and, by extension, the OK command).  I played around
> with trying to get an in-place editable listbox control for the Startup
> dialog, but to no avail - it's apparently no trivial task in Tcl/Tk.
> Perhaps for a future revision.  However, the popup dialog functions
> effective the same, as "Enter" will submit your edit and "Esc" will cancel;
> once you get used to it it shouldn't be much different.
>
> I'm also now centering the dialog windows on the screen.  I'd like to do
> this also (especially) for the "Properties" dialogs that are used to edit
> GUI controls.  Tk like to try and "cascade" new dialogs as they appear; this
> is too clever by half, and really annoying once if you do a lot of editing.
> But I've only tested this centering behavior on my own Macbook 15" screen,
> so it would be great if others could verify it's still usable on other
> screen sizes.
>
> One other thing: these dialogs can now be resized, but they appear at their
> minimum size, so you can't shrink them any further (you can only expand
> them).
>
> Please let me know what you think and as always let me know if you run into
> any trouble!
>
> Thanks,
> David
>
>
> On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 6:06 PM, David Golightly <davigoli at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Ok, with the path/startup dialogs, this is about the feature set I'd like
>> to end up with for now.  Please, everyone, review it for usability & obvious
>> bugs, and if it looks good I'll submit it as a patch.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 11:53 PM, Steffen Juul <stffn at dibidut.dk> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On 14/05/2008, at 0.16, marius schebella wrote:
>>>
>>>  David Golightly wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Keep in mind I'm
>>>>> still learning Tcl/Tk, so some of these ideas, while excellent, are a
>>>>> little beyond my technical grasp at this point and may be improvements
>>>>> that we make incrementally over time.  Also, I have a limited amount of
>>>>> my time to budget for this kind of work
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> david,
>>>> if you spend 1 hour on coding and one hour on documenting of how to get
>>>> to that step, (instead of 2 hours coding), then the chance that more
>>>> people will be able to jump in is bigger. tcl/tk is new to most people.
>>>> being able to concentrate on design and ui aspects would make life
>>>> easier. the hard part is to get started.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Especially since the names in Tk are to my experience somewhat different
>>> to what one put in the search bar, ie. of my/your(?)/normal vocabulary.
>>>
>>> Example: tabs ~= notebook. See http://wiki.tcl.tk/2298
>>>
>>
>>
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