[PD] help files was: Re: call for testing on the nightly builds!

Hans-Christoph Steiner hans at eds.org
Mon May 19 18:35:51 CEST 2008

On May 18, 2008, at 12:09 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote:

> On Sun, 2008-05-18 at 05:40 -0400, Enrique Erne wrote:
>> Roman Haefeli wrote:
>>> On Sat, 2008-05-17 at 19:50 +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
>>>> Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>>>>>> i'm not a developer but i would vote for declare
>>>>>> i.e. [declare -stdlib mrpeach] to packOSC-help.pd
>>>>>> then it would work with pd vanilla too.
>>>>> The declare/namespace/import stuff is still very undefined, so I
>>>>> think some experiementation would be good.  I think you should go
>>>>> ahead and try it using what you propose.  That will be a good test
>>>>> case.  Then we'll figure out what works best.
>>>> putting the helppatches besides the objects should fix most of the
>>>> problems, no?
>>>> no need for [declare] orgies and such
>>> yo.. it would seem strange having to put [declare]s into help- 
>>> patches in
>>> order to load the the objects, that they are explaining, IMO.
>> maybe i miss something:
>> to it seems _not_ strange to have a working help patch. the  
>> declare is
>> documenting how one can use the object-class of the external (one  
>> of the
>> 4, 5... 6 ways).
> there are only so many in pd-extended, there aren't that many in
> pd-vanilla ( i can think of [declare] and pd-settings file only).
>> or do you think a user should configure the plist/pdrc/registry first
>> and restart Pd before he can use the documentation/helpfile?
> i think, as IOhannes said, that it would make sense to put classes
> (libraries, abstractions, single-object files) and their help-files at
> the same place. i don't see a benefit in having to tell a help-file
> where to find the class.

Yeah, that's the idea of libdirs.  It just needs to be implemented  
fully.  It's pretty close.


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