[PD] netpd broken?

[Luke Iannini]

Yo,
I can confirm it with a day-or-two-old Pd-Extended autobuild.

I did some playing with this, and if you cut and paste the [pd
1-subsub] object it will start receiving messages like normal.  So, it
seems that dynamically created subpatches don't get a receiver...

A possible workaround for this would be to do a dynamic-cut-and-paste
as described in the pd-msg reference, to possibly force a proper
creation, but that is a pretty massive hack (and I didn't try it).

Also, the use of dynamically created subpatches as a way around the
no-dynamic-delete issue is great, I hadn't thought of it.  Too bad it
is broken : (.  As a member of the Church of Dynamic Patching I think
it should be added to the reference as an Offical Technique.

Cheers
Luke

On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 10:00 AM, Enrique Erne <enrique at netpd.org> wrote:
>
>> i can open netpd, log in, chat... but as soon as i open creator i get
>> error: pd-cr.singletons: no such object
>> and a empty windows pops up: pd cr.singletons (no dash)
>> netloading a netpd patch doens't work
>
>
> now i got it to. just tried it with:
> Pd-0.40.3-extended-20080531-macosx105-i386
>
> it seems that some dynamic patching tricks are broken. attached example
> isn't working anymore :(. it creates the container subpatches but can't
> create the abstraction inside. could somebody confirm that?
>
> eni
>
> #N canvas 386 22 527 592 10;
> #N canvas 17 28 355 263 sub 0;
> #N canvas 0 22 450 300 1-subsub 0;
> #X restore 10 20 pd 1-subsub;
> #N canvas 0 22 450 300 2-subsub 0;
> #X restore 10 40 pd 2-subsub;
> #N canvas 0 22 450 300 3-subsub 0;
> #X restore 10 60 pd 3-subsub;
> #N canvas 0 22 450 300 11-subsub 0;
> #X restore 10 220 pd 11-subsub;
> #N canvas 0 22 450 300 15-subsub 0;
> #X restore 10 300 pd 15-subsub;
> #N canvas 0 22 450 300 19-subsub 0;
> #X restore 10 380 pd 19-subsub;
> #N canvas 0 22 450 300 24-subsub 0;
> #X restore 10 480 pd 24-subsub;
> #N canvas 0 22 450 300 25-subsub 0;
> #X restore 10 500 pd 25-subsub;
> #N canvas 0 22 450 300 29-subsub 0;
> #X restore 10 580 pd 29-subsub;
> #N canvas 0 22 450 300 32-subsub 0;
> #X restore 10 640 pd 32-subsub;
> #N canvas 0 22 450 300 33-subsub 0;
> #X restore 10 660 pd 33-subsub;
> #N canvas 0 22 450 300 34-subsub 0;
> #X restore 10 680 pd 34-subsub;
> #N canvas 0 22 450 300 40-subsub 0;
> #X restore 10 800 pd 40-subsub;
> #N canvas 0 22 450 300 51-subsub 0;
> #X restore 10 1020 pd 51-subsub;
> #N canvas 0 22 450 300 1-subsub 0;
> #X restore 10 20 pd 1-subsub;
> #X restore 21 22 pd sub;
> #X msg 24 392 \; pd-sub clear;
> #X msg 24 233 \; pd-sub loadbang;
> #X floatatom 24 79 5 0 0 0 - - -;
> #X obj 52 136 * 20;
> #X obj 24 96 t f f f;
> #X obj 24 116 makefilename pd-%d-subsub;
> #X obj 24 156 pack s f f;
> #X obj 24 325 makefilename pd-%d-subsub;
> #X msg 24 347 \; \$1 clear;
> #X floatatom 24 306 5 0 0 0 - - -;
> #X text 79 22 add and remove abstractions;
> #X msg 21 53 1;
> #X msg 61 53 2;
> #X msg 97 53 3;
> #X text 149 53 a) create some subsubpatches and abstractions;
> #X text 148 237 b) if your abstractions use loadbang you have to do
> that manually;
> #X msg 24 283 1;
> #X msg 64 283 2;
> #X msg 100 283 3;
> #X text 142 398 (clear pd-sub before saving this patch);
> #X text 145 282 c) clear subsubpatch where your abstractions are;
> #X text 23 506 e) if your abstraction does signal processing you need
> to rebuild the dsptree. you could do so by either turn off/on [pd dsp
> 0 \, pd dsp 1( or dynamically create an other ~-object in a subpatch
> and clear it again.;
> #X text 25 439 d) if your abstraction has a gui inside that you want
> to open sepparately \, use either namecanvas or put the gui in an subpatch
> [pd \$1-something] and use an arguemnt as id to refenrence the subpatch.
> ;
> #X msg 24 176 \; pd-sub obj 10 \$2 pd \$3-subsub \; \$1 obj 10 10
> my-abstraction
> \$3;
> #X connect 3 0 5 0;
> #X connect 4 0 7 1;
> #X connect 5 0 6 0;
> #X connect 5 1 4 0;
> #X connect 5 2 7 2;
> #X connect 6 0 7 0;
> #X connect 7 0 24 0;
> #X connect 8 0 9 0;
> #X connect 10 0 8 0;
> #X connect 12 0 3 0;
> #X connect 13 0 3 0;
> #X connect 14 0 3 0;
> #X connect 17 0 10 0;
> #X connect 18 0 10 0;
> #X connect 19 0 10 0;
>
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