[PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 released

João Pais jmmmpais at googlemail.com
Mon Jun 9 18:04:18 CEST 2008 

> Which part loads super slow?  There could be other things at play
> there.  How fast is your machine?  Which platform?

the patch loads super slow. specially if there are gops in it (or nested  
ones, as in my case)
Thinkpad r51, 1,6Ghz, 1Gb Ram. XP.


> It is possible with custom preferences to cause a massive CPU spike
> on startup, if you forget to include the npath or nloadlib tags.

it does, specially with all the libraries in the startup window - I  
removed them from the registry anyway.
But that isn't related to the problem, and it makes no difference if the  
externals are previously loaded or not (my gops don't have that many  
complicated externals anyway)



> .hc
>
> On Jun 6, 2008, at 4:50 PM, Matthew Logan wrote:
>
>> Yes, it loads super-slow.  Or should I say sub-slow.  Is it because
>> of the fancy gui look? (compared to the last extended release)
>>
>> On 6/6/08, Luke Iannini <lukexipd at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 5:29 AM, João Pais <jmmmpais at googlemail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > I notice that pd is much slower now to open up patches with gops,
>> using
>> > cpu at 100% sometimes for 1/2 a minute. is that normal?
>> > after loaded, the patches run as normal. this happens since the
>> > colorscheme option in hcs/sys-gui was introduced (I updated after
>> that)
>> > I think it's related with the number of gops in the patch. I have
>> a kind
>> > of small 4-voice seq utility with several gops on top of each
>> other, and
>> > on xp it takes almost a minute (takes less in ubuntu)
>> >
>> Ha, a minute is nothing : ).  I just decided to time the opening of my
>> performance/composition suite (made up of 16 drum modules and a
>> sequencer) and it took...
>>
>> /fourteen minutes/ and 22 seconds.
>>
>> Is anyone versed enough in Pd's loading sequence to explain how it can
>> run the patch (mostly) flawlessly but take a quarter of an hour to
>> open it? (on a 2.8g mac pro)
>>
>> I'll try it with vanilla sometime when I get the energy to collect the
>> many externals I use.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Luke
>>
>> > XP, 0.40.3-extended-20080603 [with custom colorscheme, but that
>> probably
>> > has nothing to do with it]
>> >
>> >
>> >> For this release, there has been a lot of work in making the GUI
>> and
>> >> user experience much more fluid and easy. There is a new visual
>> look
>> >> that was designed to make patches more readable. Additionally, lots
>> >> of things have been tweaked to make Pd behave more like a normal
>> app.
>> >> There has already been a lot of testing on these builds, so it is
>> >> getting quite close to a final version. (Debian/PowerPC is missing
>> >> now but will come later)
>> >>
>> >> http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html
>> >>
>> >> Here is a partial changelog:
>> >>
>> >> - next visual appearance designed for readability (it can run
>> slower
>> >> on machines < 1 GHz)
>> >>
>> >> - default locations for user-installed externals, helpfiles, etc.
>> >>   GNU/Linux:  /usr/share/pd and ~/pd
>> >>   Mac OS X: /Library/Pd and ~/Library/Pd
>> >>   Windows: %ProgramFiles%/Common Files/Pd and %UserProfile%/
>> >> Application Data/Pd
>> >>
>> >> - lots of standard key bindings added:
>> >>       Enter/Return for OK
>> >>       Escape for Cancel
>> >>       Ctrl/Cmd-W closes all windows
>> >>       on Mac OS X, Cmd-` cycles thru open windows
>> >>       on Mac OS X, Cmd-m minimizes windows
>> >>       Ctrl/Cmd-R raises/lowers Pd window
>> >>       Ctrl/Cmd-Shift-R shrinks/grows Pd window
>> >>       Ctrl/Cmd-Shift-L clears Pd window's text console
>> >>       Ctrl/Cmd-B opens the Help Browser
>> >>
>> >> - you can now use "~" in all paths to mean home folder, and on
>> >> Windows you can use environment variables, lie %UserProfile% in
>> paths
>> >>
>> >> - cut/copy/paste now work directly into text boxes on all platforms
>> >>
>> >> - [declare] and [import] now sorted out for loading, much work
>> needs
>> >> to be done before there namespace support is complete
>> >>
>> >> - "File -> Save As" defaults to the Home folder (~/)
>> >>
>> >> - fixed Cut/Copy/Paste for the Pd window's console
>> >>
>> >> - included pgp_opengl aka 3dp on GNU/Linux and Mac OS X
>> >>
>> >> KNOWN BUGS
>> >>
>> >> - check http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker before reporting bugs
>> >>
>> >> - Escape, Enter, and Ctrl/Cmd-W don't close the Path and Startup
>> >> preferences
>> >>
>> >> - pdp_opengl is alpha and will definitely crash Pd
>> >>
>> >> - loading pdp_opengl will crash Pd if X11 is not open before trying
>> >> to load it
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> .hc
>> >>
>> >>
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