[PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 released

Hans-Christoph Steiner hans at eds.org
Thu Jun 19 11:57:15 CEST 2008

On Jun 19, 2008, at 11:04 AM, Georg Holzmann wrote:

> Hallo!
>> But as I understood e.g. this [1] separating packages of Pd and
>> externals/abstractions is something, Hans did rather not want to deal
>> with (at least at that time), so someone else needs to do it.
>> [1] http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-dev/2008-04/011410.html
> Yes, as I said (or at least that was what I wanted to say).
> I think the problem with the pd community is that everyone just  
> says how
> he/she would like to have the distribution and is always complaining -
> but actually only Hans is doing the main work (with some very small
> contribution as also by myself).
> I personally think that the pd-extended project is one of the most
> important things in the pd-community, if not the most important and I
> cannot understand why people are not able to work with each other and
> not always against each other. Especially developers are only
> complaining ...
> It is not enough to always say "I want the build system like this"  
> or "I
> don't like the current philosophy" - we heard this now many many times
> on the list and of course some of the criticism is also valid - there
> really need to be also contributions from other people to get this
> project working ...
> LG
> Georg
> PS: I was really fascinated how cooperation can work in other open
> source communities, but here (in PD world) I simply don't see this  
> and I
> don't understand why.

This is a very good criticism of the situation, and I know have been  
guilty of this myself as well.  I have tried to then stop giving  
unproductive criticism and start spending that time fixing things  
instead, i.e. less time emailing, more time learning the code and  



Looking at things from a more basic level, you can come up with a  
more direct solution... It may sound small in theory, but it in  
practice, it can change entire economies.     - Amy Smith

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