[PD] mrpeach osc - pipelist question

[Martin Peach]

zmoelnig at iem.at wrote:
> Quoting Martin Peach <martin.peach at sympatico.ca>:
> 
>> Aaargh... I was looking at an older version of [unpackOSC], before it
>> was modified (zmoelnig's patch 1959417). I guess the best solution is to
> 
> sorry if i caused confusion here.
> 

No problem, I had forgotten about that patch.

>> make [pipelist] accept lists without the list selector (aka
>> meta-messages) then.
> 
> i agree.

OK, the latest [pipelist] in svn pipes lists as well as meta-messages.

> 
>> I'm getting the feeling that list is becoming deprecated in favour of
>> meta-messages, since the 'list' selector is redundant. Is that right?
> 
> no, it's just something different.
> a list is "only data", without a special meaning attached to it via a  
> selector.
> (implying: the selector puts the data into a special context)

...but isn't 'list' a selector as well? What is special about it apart 
from the existence of list methods in Pd? Couldn't one use 
outlet_anything for lists as well? It seems that outlet_list just 
prepends a 'list' selector to the rest of the atoms, and a list method 
on an inlet just strips it and passes the rest.

> 
> as i understand it, an OSC message is a kind of generic message  
> (meta-message) with a selector (the address) and the data (the rest).
> it is _not_ just a list that happens to have a symbol as the first argument.
>

Yes.


> i hope it makes sense.

I'm getting there;)

Martin