[PD] really annoying question about tildes~

marius schebella marius.schebella at gmail.com
Wed Jul 16 16:26:26 CEST 2008

I think we have to face that pd's current features are not able to meet 
all needs: namespaces, special characters, fast loading, aliases...
what is missing?
does pd have something like a "registered objects list"? an index, which 
is created on pd startup that holds the name and aliases to all objects 
that can be created but without loading the objects themselves? maybe a 
hybrid somewhere between path information and the loading of a 
multi-external library. is this the way how it is done currently?
this list should be dynamically editable and would hold the aliases for 
namespaces: counter = iem/counter loading the iem counter as default, 
but still enabling the creation of cyclone/counter. also all other 
aliases could be included. and it might as well speed up starting of 
patches since there is no need to search all directories for every object.
it would extend the functionality of "path" by actually reading out a 
small amount of object information which allows for sorting, aliasing...

Roman Haefeli wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 09:25 -0400, Martin Peach wrote:
>> Roman Haefeli wrote:
>>> On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 13:09 +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
>>>> (the only difference i know of is troubles with 
>>>> special-characters when using single-object externals)
>>> there is also the issue, that aliases are not (completely) supported by
>>> pd-extended, afaik.
>> Seems to me weird characters always cause trouble somewhere along the 
>> line. Why not rename them [lt~] and [gt~]? Then there's something in 
>> gridflow I think that actually uses * in its name, I mean why not make 
>> an external with the three-character name  [ctl-alt-del]?
>> Martin
> why not calling them [greater_than_tilde] and [less_than_tilde] ?
> anyway, the alias problem is not related to 'weird' (whoever decides,
> which are considered weird and which not) characters. when loading
> mulit-class externals, all the names get registered, so that pd already
> knows about the name, when instantiating an alias. in pd-extended, it
> works as well, but you have to first load the external by its original
> name, so that the alias gets registeredl. if you first try to
> instantiate by the alias name, then pd doesn't know what external to
> load. (sorry, if i use wrong terminology here and 'to register' means
> something different).
> roman
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