[PD] really annoying question about tildes~
IOhannes m zmoelnig
zmoelnig at iem.at
Thu Jul 17 11:03:22 CEST 2008
hard off wrote:
> ok, sorry to have caused a fuss.
>
> last question: hypothetically, if miller was to include >~ and <~ into
> vanilla, would they load properly then?
yes of course.
again: the only problem with these objects is that you cannot have files
(e.g. binary files containing the code for these objects; or
abstractions) that are include characters like ">" on certain platforms.
the only solution for this is to use filenames that are named
differently than the actual class.
this solution can be implenmented in various ways:
- include it into Pd-vanilla (so these objects would reside in the file
"pd.lib" or "pd")
- use multi-object libraries (so these objects reside in "zexy.l_i386")
- use aliases (so ">~" really lives in "gt~.pd")
- use a hexloader (kind of generated filenames that map to the original
classname), so ">~" resides in "0x3e0x7e.pd"
so it's rather simple, BUT:
- Pd-vanilla does not include all the fancy'n'cool objects into Pd (esp.
if they can be easily built as externals)
- multi-object libraries are deprecated in PdX
- aliases are problematic, as you have to tell Pd about these aliases
somehow (the mapping from ">~" to "gt~" is rather arbitrary)
- the hexloader has only been partially accepted into Pd-vanilla (that
is: the filename mangling part has been taken out); and the
implementation of it as an external loader has only created problems for
everyone.
mfgasdr
IOhannes
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